Jinsye
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As the title says, his current tiers aren’t correct. So we’re doing this whole roundabout thing again to try and improve his page a bit more.
11-A is Bad
As stated in a similar thread, Bill’s 11-A rating is not correct due to the fact that we don’t give out tiers based on dimensionality anymore. So him being tier 11 based on being 2nd dimensional doesn’t hold any water. This is proven when Stanford travels to the 2nd dimension, 3-D beings are explicitly not considered ‘gods’ to 2-D beings, and the 2nd dimensional beings were capable of harming Stanford by physically attacking him with their bodies.. This is the same reason why the 6 to 11-D aliens aren't High 1-C. Thus, Bill shouldn’t be infinitely below all other characters due to this.
4-A is Bad
The current justification for 4-A is when we see Stanford standing across the galaxy. This is dumb because it’s very clearly metaphorical. It’s a metaphor for Ford’s infinite power if he teams up with Bill, which is represented by someone standing over a cosmic structure. This happens in most other fictional verses to represent the level of their power, so I don’t believe sheer size is an argument for 4-A here.
What Should Replace Them?
The answer is not exactly something you’d expect. Bill’s tier should most likely be Unknown, possibly 3-A. Why the sudden upgrade? Well, you have to remember that Bill completely destroyed his 2-D universe. When Bill discusses destroying his home dimension, he symbolizes it as a planet burning which implies that this dimension is at least cosmic like our own universe, just flat. This universe is treated similarly to the other dimensions in Journal 3 and has its own civilizations and worlds like any other, thus destroying this dimension should still be Universe level, as the destruction of a 2-D universe and 3-D universe is no different in AP if dimensional superiority doesn’t exist within the verse. The only reason why the Unknown caveat is there, is because the methodology is unknown but we do know it isn’t the dimensional rift.
The dimensional rift wouldn’t form if he is in his home dimension as that rift is what allows him to travel into Gravity Falls, so he wouldn’t need it. This applies to both keys due to the fact he only gets stronger when becoming 3rd dimensional so he would be able to apply his 3-A AP across a 3-D plane, albeit his first key keeps his shitty range so don’t expect any matches with that one.
The feat above is possible, but I've decided against it. It's much safer to put Bill as Unknown and to also remove the separation of keys due to the lack of difference in power between them.
Conclusion
Remove 11-A and 4-A from Bill’s profile. Replace both with one Unknown key. Speed should also be Unknown instead of None as well due to dimensionality not being a factor anymore.
11-A is Bad
As stated in a similar thread, Bill’s 11-A rating is not correct due to the fact that we don’t give out tiers based on dimensionality anymore. So him being tier 11 based on being 2nd dimensional doesn’t hold any water. This is proven when Stanford travels to the 2nd dimension, 3-D beings are explicitly not considered ‘gods’ to 2-D beings, and the 2nd dimensional beings were capable of harming Stanford by physically attacking him with their bodies.. This is the same reason why the 6 to 11-D aliens aren't High 1-C. Thus, Bill shouldn’t be infinitely below all other characters due to this.
4-A is Bad
The current justification for 4-A is when we see Stanford standing across the galaxy. This is dumb because it’s very clearly metaphorical. It’s a metaphor for Ford’s infinite power if he teams up with Bill, which is represented by someone standing over a cosmic structure. This happens in most other fictional verses to represent the level of their power, so I don’t believe sheer size is an argument for 4-A here.
What Should Replace Them?
The dimensional rift wouldn’t form if he is in his home dimension as that rift is what allows him to travel into Gravity Falls, so he wouldn’t need it. This applies to both keys due to the fact he only gets stronger when becoming 3rd dimensional so he would be able to apply his 3-A AP across a 3-D plane, albeit his first key keeps his shitty range so don’t expect any matches with that one.
The feat above is possible, but I've decided against it. It's much safer to put Bill as Unknown and to also remove the separation of keys due to the lack of difference in power between them.
Conclusion
Remove 11-A and 4-A from Bill’s profile. Replace both with one Unknown key. Speed should also be Unknown instead of None as well due to dimensionality not being a factor anymore.
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