Bill Cipher minor addition

[StrymULTRA]

Yeah, so this is the thing. I wanna add Immortality Type 5 in addition to his many ones.

Reasons are basically 3:

• Standford could never find a power source strong enough to kill Bill, and only did so through the Quantum Destabilizer.
• Bill is stated from Ford himself that if he gains physical form, everything is lost, and in fact, he only got truly defeated when it was used the extreme, aka erasing him alongside Stanley's mind after that he entered inside of it.
• He has NEP already so that adds more supportive stuff.

So I think that his Immortality description can be changed in this:

• Immortality (Types 1, 3, 4, 5 and 6. Stated that he will never die;[5] due to him not really existing[6] because of being a Mindscape being that is in a state of quantum uncertainty where everything he is he's also not,[3] Stanford couldn't find a way to truly stop him[2] until he found tolls to erase him, such as the Quantum Destabilizer[4] or erasing Stanley's mind with Bill inside of it[8])

Edit: I'd also add a "Possible Resistance to Time Manipulation" as he kinda of implied to not be bound by time unlike humans.

 

[Thelastmlg]

disagree, bill is getting too powerful in the wiki, he has to go back to the simpler times of being like, town level and his only worth being starting with transmutation hax

but i can agree with it cuz i'm in a good mood

 

[StrymULTRA]

disagree, bill is getting too powerful in the wiki, he has to go back to the simpler times of being like, town level and his only worth being starting with transmutation hax

 

[ShionAH]

Bill is everything he is and not

Which means he is life and death at the same time so yeah I agree

 

[SuhSuhGuhSuhSuh]

Makes sense to me, I agree

 

[ZeedKZ]

Sounds good. I agree.

 

[StrymULTRA]

bump

 

[StrymULTRA]

Bump + I edited OP.

 

[Dereck03]

Yeah, so this is the thing. I wanna add Immortality Type 5 in addition to his many ones.

Reasons are basically 3:

• Standford could never find a power source strong enough to kill Bill, and only did so through the Quantum Destabilizer.
• Bill is stated from Ford himself that if he gains physical form, everything is lost, and in fact, he only got truly defeated when it was used the extreme, aka erasing him alongside Stanley's mind after that he entered inside of it.
• He has NEP already so that adds more supportive stuff.

So I think that his Immortality description can be changed in this:

• Immortality (Types 1, 3, 4, 5 and 6. Stated that he will never die;[5] due to him not really existing[6] because of being a Mindscape being that is in a state of quantum uncertainty where everything he is he's also not,[3] Stanford couldn't find a way to truly stop him[2] until he found tolls to erase him, such as the Quantum Destabilizer[4] or erasing Stanley's mind with Bill inside of it[8])

Seems fine.

Edit: I'd also add a "Possible Resistance to Time Manipulation" as he kinda of implied to not be bound by time unlike humans.

I can't find that excerpt in that thread, but based on my memories of Gravity Falls I think it's a figure of speech nothing more, referring to his immortality of eternal life (type 1) since time is meaningless to him.

 

[StrymULTRA]

I can't find that excerpt in that thread, but based on my memories of Gravity Falls I think it's a figure of speech nothing more, referring to his immortality of eternal life (type 1) since time is meaningless to him.

It's basically this

1. HUMANS ARE FAT WET BAGS OF MEAT WITHERING UNDER THE OPPRESSIVE TYRANNY OF TIME AND PUPPETEERED BY THE ARBITRARY WHIMS OF NATURAL SELECTION! I ENJOY PUTTING ON HUMAN SKIN THE WAY JACK THE RIPPER ENJOYED WEARING CLOWN MASKS! HE ASKED ME NOT TO TELL ANYONE ABOUT THAT BUT WHAT HAS HE DONE FOR ME LATELY? 6)INCREASE YOUR THERAPY BILLS 7)I HAVE EYES IN MANY PLACES. I HAVE FRIENDS WITH MANY FACES. I KEEP THE PINES IN PROPER PLACES. DONT LOOK NOW- I UNTIED YOUR LACES

This is why I am referring to "possibly", given it can mean a lot of stuff. However, given his weird asf nature, and the fact he's already unbound from stuff like physics, physical death, madness, etc, it's not that much of a stretch imo.

 

[ShionAH]

I think it fits with him living in the Nightmare Realm. A place with no laws and causality

 

[Dereck03]

Tbh I don't know how that could imply that bill says he is not bound by time, there is a big assumption here, he just says that humans wither from the oppressive tyranny of time, which supports my claim that Bill is referring to his immortality of eternal life, as time is nothing to him as it doesn't affect him as it does against humans.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Actually, you're right.

It says that humans wither under the tyranny of time, which is more about aging. So yeah... I concede and I'll add it to the Type 1 Immortality reason.

 

[CodeCCLL]

I agree with the points agreed so far.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Seems fine.

Can Type 5 be applied then?

 

[Dereck03]

Can Type 5 be applied then?

Everyone here seems to agreed with it and me as well so feel free to do so.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Everyone here seems to agreed with it and me as well so feel free to do so.

Is locked

 

[Dereck03]

Done

 

[StrymULTRA]

You can lock profile and thread now.

 

[Dereck03]

Aye.