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Bifrost upgrade and potential Thor upgrade

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Here is absolute proof that MCU Thor tanked the star sucking power of the Bifrost explosion, in base form:

The MCU states onscreen that the white dots outside the Bifrost Observatory are stars, the MCU shows IRL science onscreen that stars move due to the mass of black holes and gas clouds, the MCU shows IRL science onscreen that the Bifrost generates a black hole, and the official Disney+ audio description says the Bifrost generated a gas cloud.


1. In Thor 1, MCU astrophysicists Jane Foster and Erik Selvig discuss seeing stars located on the other side of the Bifrost wormhole, stars that are not visible from Earth, and therefore stars that are visible from Asgard. (This is an example of "gravitational lensing," an IRL science term explained in Point 4 below.) Since they are discussing stars located on the other side of the Bifrost wormhole, that means the white dots shown around that side of the wormhole itself, in space outside the Observatory on Asgard, are in fact stars. There is no other description of any objects visibly existing in space outside Asgard than stars, and the only objects shown onscreen existing outside Asgard are the white dots. It would be headcanon to suggest that the white dots are anything except stars.

2. In Thor 2, Thor and Heimdall straight up say that the white dots outside the Bifrost Observatory are stars, as the movie shows the stars. Thor asks, "How fare the stars?" Heimdall replies, "Still shining." The official Disney+ audio description of the scene confirms this, saying: "Standing inside looking at the stars is Heimdall." It would be complete headcanon to claim that all these white dots -- which Thor and Heimdall say are stars, and that the movie Thor 2 shows onscreen, and that official Disney+ audio description of the scene confirms are stars -- were not present during the climax of Thor 1, which occurred in the exact same location of space with white dots. Thor 2 says and shows stars in the exact same area where the climax of Thor 1 occurred. So stars shown here in Thor 2 mean stars were shown in Thor 1.




Jane's research notes on the Bifrost in Thor 1 say "stellar velocity." That is a real term. "The stellar velocity dispersion of a galaxy essentially measures the random line-of-sight motion of stars due to a the presence of mass." So Thor 1 straight up acknowledges onscreen that Jane is studying the movement of stars due to gravity, in connection with the Bifrost. The fastest IRL stellar velocity of a star is 2,285 kilometers per second, which is a very tiny fraction of light speed, and the average distance between stars is 5 light years, so normal motion of stars would not be visible onscreen in mere seconds — therefore the stars would be visibly moving onscreen in mere seconds only due to some other powerful external force, and the Bifrost was show onscreen as that force in Thor 1.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/up...111553484/9330658-thorstellarvelocitycopy.jpg

IRL, stellar velocity can be caused by a supermassive black hole at the center of galaxy, and by a giant gas cloud. In Thor 1, Jane defines the Bifrost as an Einstein-Rosen Bridge aka wormhole. IRL, that requires a black hole with many solar masses. In Thor 4, Jane's board about her Bifrost research (aka The Foster Theory that Selvig mentions to Fury in the after credits of Thor 1) shows the IRL Schwarzchild Radius formula for the mass of a black hole. SHIELD computers analyzing the Bifrost in Thor 1 show that it has "exotic matter" and "gravity," both of which require mass. The official Disney+ audio description for the climax of Thor 1 also straight up says Loki fell into a gas cloud. So we know for a fact that the Bifrost generates a black hole, gravity, mass, and gas clouds. Jane's statement in Thor 1 of "lensing around these edges" also means the Bifrost produces IRL gravitational lensing, which requires at least galaxy level mass since Asgard and Earth are not in the same galaxy.



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5. Putting this all together, it is now impossible to factually claim that the white dots shown getting sucked into the Bifrost at the end of Thor 1 were not stars. In fact, here is absolute proof that the white dots outside the Bifrost Observatory are stars, that the Bifrost generates a black hole and a gas cloud, that black holes and gas clouds move stars through stellar velocity, and that the Bifrost generates stellar velocity on a MFTL scale across many light years of space when left open for too long.

6. As for Thor being nearly killed at Nidavellir, that is a special star, not a normal star. Selvig’s book in Thor 1 says the creation of Mjolnir caused a star to explode and almost take Earth with it. In Infinity War, Thor states that Nidavellir is the birthplace of Mjolnir. Nidavellir and Earth are in separate galaxies, and half a universe apart. That’s how powerful the star explosion was. Nidvallir also was powerful enough to create the Infinity Gauntlet, capable of harnessing the power of all six Infinity Stones, as well as Stormbreaker, capable of both summoning the Bifrost and overpowering the full IG energy beam. (Selvig’s book was right about the existence of Asgard, the Bifrost, Thor, Odin, Loki, Heimdall, and Balder — Balder mentioned onscreen in Loki S2).

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Now, recall Thor 1 director Kenneth Branagh's words about the climax of the movie:

https://mega.nz/file/bAN0AKhD#_GGK_0fhbUuyUrjBvIqybPG7oC3dGvpwvMQWbI_ftbE

Branagh identifies himself at timestamp 0:18 and he says the following at timestamp 1:36:36:

“Two brothers whose conflict now is potentially liable to see the destruction of part or all of the universe but certainly Jotunheim.”

Jotunheim, which is in another galaxy from Asgard.

8. Oh, and finally, that "gateway to another dimension" that Selvig mentioned to Fury at the end of Thor 1? It includes the higher dimension of Eternity, the living embodiment of the multiverse. This is the power of the Bifrost, which base level Thor tanked, and which Thor currently wields via Stormbreaker.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/foru...99/mcu-eternity-is-multiversal-proof-2341091/

 
yeah forgot about the tier part but odin created a constellation which was solar systematic creating a black hola that can suck in this many stars should be atleast above that level and since the black hole was able to reach two different galaxies then which are far away from eachother then solar systematic-galaxy level
 
Because nothing, especially in powerscaling, is absolute? Everything can be argued in favor or against.
Really? Can you present an argument for "The irl Sun is a rocky planet with a civilization that lives on it's surface." This is interesting.
 
Wow, a greatly exaggerated misinterpretation of what I said. That surely will make you look smart and not a corny ass redditor.
I mean you're the one who said nothing is absolute and everything can be argued. Also I'm not the one bringing up pointless issues in a CRT. Nobody gives a rat's ass if OP used the words "absolute proof" in their argument. Why don't you present actual arguments against the OP instead of being a smartass?
 
I mean you're the one who said nothing is absolute and everything can be argued.
Oh yes, let's exaggerate a single point because I have the funny.

Also I'm not the one bringing up pointless issues in a CRT. Nobody gives a rat's ass if OP used the words "absolute proof" in their argument. Why don't you present actual arguments against the OP instead of being a smartass?
Bro, you're the one hopping on my dick with that redditor ass behavior and you think you can call others smartass? Take that corny ass attitude somewhere else, lmao. Your only contribution here is an attempt at being a funny smartass yourself while all I did was pointing out an inoffensive point. Don't project your clown behavior on me.
 
You see, Zeus was helping a bro look good in front of the hoes. He was acting.
Fax cuz "Everything can be argued in favor or against.🗣🔥"

Here, I wrote a small analysis on why we shouldn't even use Love and Thunder for feats or scaling:

Thor wasn't actually naked there. Worst movie of the MCU.
Ur powerscaling analogy is prob the worse one I've seen on the website tbh
 
As funny as this is, we're prolly derailing a lot. I'm actually curious on what the counter arguments are. Neutral for now.
 
Ur powerscaling analogy is prob the worse one I've seen on the website tbh
Funny how you're desperately trying to chip in in an inoffensive argument that you tried to get my attention 2 times.

As funny as this is, we're prolly derailing a lot. I'm actually curious on what the counter arguments are.
We are. I'm curious as well, that's the only reason I'm still following the thread. Funny how I'm not actually against the thread, huh?
 
Funny how you're desperately trying to chip in in an inoffensive argument that you tried to get my attention 2 times.
A very inoffensive comment indeed, which is why bro started to insult other people
We are. I'm curious as well, that's the only reason I'm still following the thread. Funny how I'm not actually against the thread, huh?

If you got nothing relevant to pull out on the thread except for that wonky "Everything can be argued in favor or against.🗣🔥", just unfollow the thread
 
A very inoffensive comment indeed, which is why bro started to insult other people
Bro did not took me seriously, I did not took bro seriously. Literally nothing happened.

If you got nothing relevant to pull out on the thread except for that wonky "Everything can be argued in favor or against.🗣🔥", just unfollow the thread
Funny how, besides you wanting my attention for God knows why, you're still pushing the same button and derailing the thread (even after me and Hellothere both agreering to stop arguing). I literally told you my reason of why I'm still following, or you can't read? Stop acting like a child, and be better.
 
Ive messaged every mod that supports mcu and nobody checks the thread so what do i do now?
With no mod votes, you can't do anything but wait until they're free. That's how it works, you can keep bumping this thread until someone eventually comes to check it out.
 
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Wdym? I thought "Because nothing, especially in powerscaling, is absolute? EVERYTHING can be argued in favor or against."

Star - Galaxy level prob
Not even an ap upgrade, most of this is just LS upgrade and LS. does not always translate into AP
 
This is more or less the exact same thread that's been reposted from Comicvine like three times now. It's a 4-A to 3-A upgrade proposal for anyone who scales to Thor and it's been rejected every single time it's been brought up.
Why was it rejected?
 
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