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Berserk tiering issues

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UchihaSlayer96 said:
Okay, so I've found something interesting, but it's a real thinker alright. We need help with this one.

During chapters 304 and 305, we witnessed the Great Roar of the Astral World, where Griffith manipulated causality in order to have Skull Knight cut open Ganishka's Shiva form which caused a spatial distortion of sorts that ended up transforming the world and merging the Astral and physical planes together as one.

Now, what interests me is that Ganishka was used as a battery and catalyst for this event, and he released enough light and wind to engulf the entire planet, every nook and cranny.

I know reality warping and spacial manipulation were involved, but I wonder if we can calculate illuminating the entire world somehow. Ganishka was the power source. If the calc is possible, and bears fruit, then we can discuss possible scaling later.

A friend of mine (who's a retired calc member) referred me to a couple of similar feats.

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Naruto Calc: Madara Illuminates The World

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Mana's Luminosity - Monster Strike

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However, he told me that to calculate luminosity the source of light needs to be a celestial object, but I have no idea how that applies to Ganishka or whether it's possible to calc the feat some other way.
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Maybe we should look into the Astral roar as well?

Also there's this blog made by Jasonsith (courtesy of @OppaiSenpai5 ) that has lighting up the earth for 60 seconds at 6-C

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A page for reference of common feats by Jasonsith

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Could potentially be interesting.
 
Would it scale to anyone though? Also there was wind that split clouds (I think), so it's way higher
 
SpookyShadow said:
Yeah but it took him dying to do that
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Yes, but that means he had that latent energy all along, and since the Godhand are above him in every regard (at least in their true forms) I'd assume they can match that power as well.
 
I mean, idk, a lot of other verses get different AP tiers for certain abilities, Weather manipulation and Suicide attacks included, so I thought we could do something similar.
 
I've even seen characters get AP tiers for hax abilities such as creation and reality warping lol.
 
Then Griffith creating Falconia would be impressive, but I think the storm feat is more impressive anyway
 
Succeeded in adding the new tiering, high tier Berserk is now 8-A!

Now let's talk about the Lifting Strength rating and we are probably done with this CRT, I'll list some feats. I will just estimate my rating for these feats.

LOWER TIER, GOLDEN AGE

Zodd can easily hold his large sword and two men at the same time with it, with a single hand. Guts can block his most powerful strikes with his large sword. Class 1 to Class 5? - Scales to base Zodd and BoS Guts.

Wyald is at very least Class 10 or Class 25 due to his sheer size and that he can support his own weight. Also can wield large trees. Guts is weaker physically (even though he's tougher), but he should still somewhat scale, as he could choke and grapple Wyald. (NSFW alert, nude Casca). - Scaling is End of Golden Age Guts and Wyald.

HIGHER TIERS, BLACK SWORDSMAN ARC/FANTASIA/LATER

Obviously, Guts can lift the Dragon Slayer and swing it at very high speeds, which is Class 1 to Class 5, I think. Maybe higher, because of the immense speed he swings it with.

Zodd not only is hilariously more powerful than Wyald, he also lifted him with his horns only without the use of his arms and ripped him apart easily, which is easily the most impressive LS feat in the series for the high tiers. Maybe even around Class 100?

Guts could easily lift Mozgus while heavily injured, along with his Dragon Slayer and throw him. I think Mozgus has some canon weight. So that should be easily around Class 5.

Also Berserker Armor Guts could casually hold back a large ship mast along with Dragon Slayer, but that's not his most impressive feat. Class 10 I think?

Grunbeld can move around large stones with just his teeth and "with ease". Class 25, as Angron has checked, scaling to Stonehenge stones.

The characters scaling there are: Skull Knight, Black Swordsman Guts, Grunbeld and Apostle Zodd.
 
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Aight, time to finally calc what ripping off human limbs and ripping humans in half at the waist yields.
 
I linked all the calculations on the verse page so we'll never forget what the characters are rated as

As fro Guts, I put his Base and Berserker Armor forms in the same key as it's technically a transformation Guts can activate
 
Would the incineration of large sized apostles yield anything higher than 8-A? Just curious because it could affect Ganishka's Apostle form.
 
Guts Berserker Armor should have class 50 strength because he actually managed to overpower Grunbeld and even stop a tail swipe from Apostle Grunbeld
 
Grunbeld apparently weighs 1644 kg in his Apostle form, according to the Official Guidebook.

Zodd also has interesting stats: Zodd is estimated to be 220 cm (7 ft, 2 in) and 165 kg (364 lb) in his normal form, and 350 cm (11 ft, 4 in) and 1001 kg (2207 lb) in his released form.
Zodd's height here admittedly seems very off.
 
UchihaSlayer96 said:
Grunbeld apparently weighs 1644 kg in his Apostle form, according to the Official Guidebook.

Zodd also has interesting stats: Zodd is estimated to be 220 cm (7 ft, 2 in) and 165 kg (364 lb) in his normal form, and 350 cm (11 ft, 4 in) and 1001 kg (2207 lb) in his released form.
Zodd's height here admittedly seems very off.
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The weight doesn't really seem that off. Zodd's human form wouldn't be all that heavy, and I can believe his realeased form's weight based on some calcs I've done for creatures of similar size.
 
I think Grunbeld's weight doesn't seem that crazy either, granted he could also be much higher tbh.
 
UchihaSlayer96 said:
Grunbeld apparently weighs 1644 kg in his Apostle form, according to the Official Guidebook.

Zodd also has interesting stats: Zodd is estimated to be 220 cm (7 ft, 2 in) and 165 kg (364 lb) in his normal form, and 350 cm (11 ft, 4 in) and 1001 kg (2207 lb) in his released form.
Zodd's height here admittedly seems very off.
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It's more about Grunbeld's own feats, but 1644kg? Seriously? I think he's way more than that.
 
What is left to do here? Can I unsubscribe, so you can contact me after you have finished instead?
 
Antvasima said:
What is left to do here? Can I unsubscribe, so you can contact me after you have finished instead?
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Basically the AP section is finished, now we're doing the lifting strength stuff and the making of profiles for Mozgus and Ganishka.
 
Okay. I will unsubscribe then.
 
It has better feats and scaling I think, it summoned a storm, scales above some water monster that can sink 10 warships etc

I think just focusing rn on the lifting strength is better and take a break until some more feats come for higher tiers
 
SpookyShadow said:
It has better feats and scaling I think, it summoned a storm, scales above some water monster that can sink 10 warships etc

I think just focusing rn on the lifting strength is better and take a break until some more feats come for higher tiers
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That and it is essentially a deity which scales to other powerful astral entities

Also his strength should be Class K+ because one of his whiskers could hold an entire carrack ship which weighs an average of 500 tons
 
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