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Ben 10 vs Doctor Doom | 0-0-0

It doesn't say anything about L1A magic in his profile
Yes, it does.

"However, one of the best statements for Marvel Magic scaling in potency to the Low 1-A Marvel Universe of Earth 616 (aka Universal Eternity) comes from Loki's statements about magic, as he states that magic is "Telling a story to the universe so utterly, cosmically perfect that for a single, shining moment... the world believes a man can fly ",[55] and those stories echo through space and time back to the start of all things, mixing with the All-That-Was and sparking something new, such as the mythical Gods of the Marvel Universe as well as the 10 Norse Realms (each of which is its own universe).[56] Similarly, Doctor Doom states that magic is essentially a higher narrative into the flow of events, imposing a narrative upon reality, imposing a story, a fiction into reality and willing it to become true.[59] Both of these statements indicate that a fundamental part of basic magic is altering the underlying foundation of Earth-616. In further support of this, magic is stated to be the practice of making the universe bend to one's will[57] by speaking words of power."

"Magic, as stated below in the descriptions for Basic P&A and as stated above, is basically summed up as altering the underlying information of the universe through sufficiently powerful symbolism to achieve a bunch of random effects. Or, as Loki puts it, you tell a story so perfect that the universe believes it for a second,[55] something also stated here.[56] This means that it is affecting the fabric of the universe itself, aka Earth 616, aka Universal Eternity. Also, magic is stated to be the practice of making the universe bend to one's will[57] by speaking words of power.[110] Thus, that would make magic Low 1-A in potency."
 
Lmao.

It happened the same to that thread of X vs Hulk. They should specify that practically no one is actually below L1A, as even the weaker one is at that level.

It would make doing matches way easier.
 
Yes, it does.

"However, one of the best statements for Marvel Magic scaling in potency to the Low 1-A Marvel Universe of Earth 616 (aka Universal Eternity) comes from Loki's statements about magic, as he states that magic is "Telling a story to the universe so utterly, cosmically perfect that for a single, shining moment... the world believes a man can fly ",[55] and those stories echo through space and time back to the start of all things, mixing with the All-That-Was and sparking something new, such as the mythical Gods of the Marvel Universe as well as the 10 Norse Realms (each of which is its own universe).[56] Similarly, Doctor Doom states that magic is essentially a higher narrative into the flow of events, imposing a narrative upon reality, imposing a story, a fiction into reality and willing it to become true.[59] Both of these statements indicate that a fundamental part of basic magic is altering the underlying foundation of Earth-616. In further support of this, magic is stated to be the practice of making the universe bend to one's will[57] by speaking words of power."

"Magic, as stated below in the descriptions for Basic P&A and as stated above, is basically summed up as altering the underlying information of the universe through sufficiently powerful symbolism to achieve a bunch of random effects. Or, as Loki puts it, you tell a story so perfect that the universe believes it for a second,[55] something also stated here.[56] This means that it is affecting the fabric of the universe itself, aka Earth 616, aka Universal Eternity. Also, magic is stated to be the practice of making the universe bend to one's will[57] by speaking words of power.[110] Thus, that would make magic Low 1-A in potency."
Yes, that Is not Doom's profile.
 
If Doom started in his 5-B key then I'd say Ben had a small chance since Doom may not use magic from the get go against someone like Ben.

But even then Doom has a crapton of abilities thanks to the armor and whatnot.
 
If Doom started in his 5-B key then I'd say Ben had a small chance since Doom may not use magic from the get go against someone like Ben.

But even then Doom has a crapton of abilities thanks to the armor and whatnot.
It is interesting that doom overpowers almost everyone in Ben's arsenal with raw strength alone lol.
 
It is interesting that doom overpowers almost everyone in Ben's arsenal with raw strength alone lol.
Plus he's faced foes similar to basically all of Ben's aliens.

And he can use pull a Kevin and absorb the energy of the Omnitrix.

Bro should've restrict his magic
In character he probably wouldn't use magic in a standard scenario unless his opponent was pressuring him, was a fellow magician, or was incredibly powerful.
 
Smurf hax aside, nothing stops Doom from:

1. Using energy draining via his armor's energy absorption/power siphon.
2. Ovoid Mind-Swap
3. Soul-haxxing with a single magic blast (because even normal-ass magic blasts soul-hax you)
4. Magic Power-null that works on Skaar, a Silver Surfer-level opponent
 
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