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LMAO what is that video title
Abstractly_a_Protagonist
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I lean more on Immortality type 9 honestly. Dunno why the other thread get nuked.
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Ignore that, there is another instance as well where starbeard used his another ability w/o moving but man I gotta download to show it but I think this much should be enough.
Abstractly_a_Protagonist
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Doesn't invalidate that Alien X can brought his body back which can fall to type 3 or 4.
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I think I can contradict Alien X's DNA containing the pocket dimension, you see Alien X's DNA should branch when the timeline branches else it'd just disappear from Primus and Ben shouldn't be able to access it anymore. But Alien X only has 1 pocket dimension, thus we arrive at a contradiction.
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ShionAH
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I agree with 8 (omnitrix is the source) that makes sense Ig
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Acausality
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Like i said prior this is only present if ben transform into alien x
We know serena and belecus keeps arguing for eternity without ben so if ben dies without ever transforming into alien x or having his consciousness be sent to that pocket dimension they probably would still argue making this whole immortality almost nonexistent as they will not do anything even with alien X dna because it is their nature to argue
So idc if its type 4 or 8. This ability has glaring weakness
We know serena and belecus keeps arguing for eternity without ben so if ben dies without ever transforming into alien x or having his consciousness be sent to that pocket dimension they probably would still argue making this whole immortality almost nonexistent as they will not do anything even with alien X dna because it is their nature to argue
So idc if its type 4 or 8. This ability has glaring weakness
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That doesn't matter for timeline branching, the acausality also comes from the same statement of there being only one Alien X.
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Not my fault man, vsbw guys are confusing me. Although as usual, I believe in @Abstractly_a_Protagonist when it comes to haxes or P&A.
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Uh sure, only Alien X specifically benefits from this, not Base Ben when not transformed.
Abstractly_a_Protagonist
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Just give it to Alien X, not Ben.
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Yes I concur that but as I said, there are decisive and non decisive Celestial sapiens which can actually makes this less important as what this crt about. Although, I'll mention it in future.
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Considering that there is only one Forge Of Creation and it's out there in their personalities, wouldn't it still be the same Alien X at different times? Otherwise there will be more than one Serena and Bellicus
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Anyway, they can use their ability w/o gesture as well.
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Bellicus and Serena can do things without having any limbs -> All his abilities are thought/(mental) energy-based.
Alien X's pocket dimension exists outside of space and time and has no relation to his body -> His body can be recreated upon destruction/erasure.
Type 9: Characters whose true selves exist independently from the plane where they can be killed.
Alien X's pocket dimension exists outside of space and time and has no relation to his body -> His body can be recreated upon destruction/erasure.
Type 9: Characters whose true selves exist independently from the plane where they can be killed.
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It's the same one, but my point is that there is only one pocket dimension as well, whereas before we assumed there were infinite pocket dimensions essentially.
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I cannot believe I agree with another Ben 10 goons that is not Reiner.
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I'm like the OG Ben 10 goon and I have far surpassed him. I only appear when Reiner is in over his head though.
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Where is it going? Can you help me?
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What?
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"Whereas before we assumed there were infinite pocket dimensions essentially"
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Look what they did to my baby
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Ever since AX has HDE has been accepted.
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Fair enough.
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The Omnitrix once again does not contain his DNA and I've proven a bit above that the pocket dimension and thus by extension the personalities doesn't exist inside of the body. But whatever, feels like we're going in circles at this point so we should just wait for staff.
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His omnitrix present inside the Dimension has already been accepted.
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There's also Bellicus saying that Ben is stuck in the pocket dimension and never leaving, which should account for outside influences like Azmuth trying to shut down or destroy the Omnitrix symbol on his chest which should be noted somewhere.
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What do you mean? Why are you guys farming likes out of eachother lmao
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Here, I gave you a like,
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In one of my crt, it has been accepted that ben in the pocket Dimension holds the omnitrix, transformations are capable of actually replicate the omnitrix as whole as shown with echo Echo, ditto, Alien X.
Abstractly_a_Protagonist
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To be honest, from what I remember all from the previous Ben CRT.
What affect Alien X body wouldn't affect Ben physically inside the pocket dimension, and the connection of the trio (Belicus, Selena, and Ben) with Alien X body goes as follow: The trio (The player), Alien X body (The game).
What happen to the game wouldn't affect the player that controlling it, and the player can easily create another body (As seen in Alien X duplicating itself) hence I still stand that it's Immortality type 9.
- Ben inside the pocket dimension is not merely a conciousness but his whole being, this is proven by Paradox capable of going inside the pocket dimension and physically brought Ben back.
- Ben inside the pocket dimension still has Omnitrix, meaning Alien X body aren't Ben only body (We have seen Echo-Echo duplication and its capability of duplicating omnitrix and even transforming with it), so it is not farfetch that in the mechanism of Alien X transformation that it created a body for the trio (Belicus, Selena, and Ben) to control while also has its omnitrix on the chest (despite Ben also has it in the pocket dimension). Also, Ben while inside that dimension aren't affected by what Alien X body is being subjected to, we even straight up sees Alien X duplicating itself, and Ben controlling all of them from that pocket dimension. It means that he can easily create a body if needs to be.
What affect Alien X body wouldn't affect Ben physically inside the pocket dimension, and the connection of the trio (Belicus, Selena, and Ben) with Alien X body goes as follow: The trio (The player), Alien X body (The game).
What happen to the game wouldn't affect the player that controlling it, and the player can easily create another body (As seen in Alien X duplicating itself) hence I still stand that it's Immortality type 9.
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Should Alien X also get avatar creation?
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That's already included in creation imo.
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