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Yeah sadly I think it would just be due to the Chrono Navigator, partly because it's a more reasonable and conservative assumption and partly because he's already portrayed as physically comparable to the base cast. It does give us a nice extra supporting feat for it though, not that it needs it but still.Paradox will get affected by the 2-A rating too, right? He was very confident that he could beat Eon even after he merged the timeline.
Although that could be attributed to the Chrono Navegador scaling multiples layers above that feat.
I thing yeh, cuz he was able to push Ben too, not only clash.Btw do weapon clashes count for Lifting Strength? Because if so then that's Class P LS for Eon thanks to clashing with Diamondhead in OV.
Ye that's what I'm thinking, I'm just gonna add it and if it's wrong it can be called out in the eventual thread.I thing yeh, cuz he was able to push Ben too, not only clash.
Hmmmm, might’ve noticed something wacky about the Alpha Rune. So magic is based off of manipulating the mana within the user and/or magical objects, right? And the Alpha Rune possesses absolute power over all magic, mana and Legerdomain right? Yet we also know the Alpha Rune is powered by mana too, so how can it have absolute power over all mana if it itself is powered by a limited amount of mana? Is that “absolute power over magic” thing a different power of the Rune unrelated to its own magic? It was seemingly created by Paradox, so I wouldn’t put it past it having a separate power untied to the mana within it.
That makes a lot of sense.Y’all don’t mind me flooding the thread with my ramblings, right?
On second though it might be more like a Speed Force kind of situation where magic users tap into the power of Legerdomain itself. I’ll have to look into this more.
I first got this thought while surfing the Ben 10 wiki and being reminded of OV’s Bezel lore, specifically the part where beings outside of Legerdomain only gained access to magic after the veil of reality between Legerdomain and the rest of the universe was weakened. I’m worried this info won’t be enough though since iirc it’s entirely from a DJW statement.That makes a lot of sense.
I mean, if they get stronger every time they go there, it would make sense.
In particular I got the idea he uses his time powers on the watch so Gwen can skip the recharge time and isn't vulnerable.That reminds me of my "Ben from the Gwen 10 universe gains Chronian powers but remains good" idea.
I imagine it’s just kid Ben using the powers, but for some reason my first thought was him turning into an adult all Shazam-like, which would eventually lead to him pulling up to Eon like this:That reminds me of my "Ben from the Gwen 10 universe gains Chronian powers but remains good" idea.
One of my ideas was that this Ben encounters Eon who landed on that timeline by mistake and has no interest on this Ben cause he doesn't have the Omnitrix, stuff happens and Eon gets somehow absorbed into Ben and thanks to Ben's willpower he can't take over so Ben gets chronian powers and Eon talking on his head.I imagine it’s just kid Ben using the powers, but for some reason my first thought was him turning into an adult all Shazam-like, which would eventually lead to him pulling up to Eon like this:
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I might have Eon brainrot guys
Honestly I assumed he would’ve just unlocked them naturally around the time Gwen first learned magic in OS, given Ben’s Chronian powers would be his equivalent to magic.One of my ideas was that this Ben encounters Eon who landed on that timeline by mistake and has no interest on this Ben cause he doesn't have the Omnitrix, stuff happens and Eon gets somehow absorbed into Ben and thanks to Ben's willpower he can't take over so Ben gets chronian powers and Eon talking on his head.
Though the more logical options is that he awakens them some other way.
Why is that important?Doubt, is there a proof that Ma Vreedle's missile existed before OV? I mean, that she had it.
Because her episode is like, 4 months after UA, enough time for her to acquire something like that.
Why is that important?
Those were dark ages, definitely.I was away from this wiki for years, and I come back to...base Ben Tennyson being Large Planet Level!
And I remember when Ben 10 was downgraded to as low as High 8-C. Man a lot has changed.
I always considered myself a Ben 10 stan (not so much anymore really), but even during the time I was eager to wank Ben 10, I would've called the current ratings absurd. I cannot imagine how many lengthy CRT's it took to get to this point.Those were dark ages, definitely.
Now we're in the other side of things, tho.
Ig.I always considered myself a Ben 10 stan (not so much anymore really), but even during the time I was eager to wank Ben 10, I would've called the current ratings absurd. I cannot imagine how many lengthy CRT's it took to get to this point.
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Well.... that's how things work in vsbattle wiki.I was away from this wiki for years, and I come back to...base Ben Tennyson being Large Planet Level!
And I remember when Ben 10 was downgraded to as low as High 8-C. Man a lot has changed.
User's like Reiner is most of the work + GenshiroI always considered myself a Ben 10 stan (not so much anymore really), but even during the time I was eager to wank Ben 10, I would've called the current ratings absurd. I cannot imagine how many lengthy CRT's it took to get to this point.
everyone was at tier 8?I was away from this wiki for years, and I come back to...base Ben Tennyson being Large Planet Level!
And I remember when Ben 10 was downgraded to as low as High 8-C. Man a lot has changed.
Awhile ago yes. To be more precise, the low-mid tiers were. Alien X did drop as low as 3-A though.everyone was at tier 8?
With Ben 10 there's very little consistency when it comes to trying to make scaling chains, so everyone upscaling from certain feats is kinda inevitable (it's also why there's so many anti-feats)Capping High 8-C was so ass FR XD. So glad that changed
5-A aliens is fine, base Gwen and Kevin physically scaling to it is fine too. I just don’t think Ben should scale to it.
We know officially that he's 100 feet tall in OS, and 200 in UAF.is there any calcs on site of Way Big's various sizes?
yea i've seen those, though the statements seem contradictory with the writers of the show just retconning that Ben can alter the size and I remember seeing past calcs which get his size as high as 500 meters, so I was wondering if there's any on site savedWe know officially that he's 100 feet tall in OS, and 200 in UAF.