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We should make a profile for Sugilite cuz that would be cool i think
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That never happens in Ben 10. A power amp is strictly a power amp.Why wouldn’t his speed be amped if his over all power was amped?
Could have just oneshot him then instead.probably cause he didn’t get the chance to since he threw kevin
He's not distinct enough from Chromastone to warrant that, all he has is a temporary amp.We should make a profile for Sugilite cuz that would be cool i think
Says who?That never happens in Ben 10. A power amp is strictly a power amp.
Could have just oneshot him then instead.
You need to ask DMUA what calculation he accepted at the time. The first attempt or the recalc?stinkfly on vsb scales to 2.20 tons right ? https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Zamasu_Chan/Stinkfly_survives_an_explosion It says Building level on his profile wouldn't it be high 8-c then ? looking the Attack Potency chart https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Attack_Potency
I do in my years of expertise. Good luck finding counterproof.Says who?
Kevin would have caught on to that. Why do y'all explain everything in Ben 10 with PIS, the only real PIS I can think of is Swampfire not regenning from shit he should be able to. Anyways they were clearly relative in the fight, maybe Kevin had a slight AP disadvantage but he did seem confident in his ability to win that fight.probably, could have crushed him with his crystals as well but plot I guess
The amp wore off by then due to partly restoring his planet.Yeah i'm thinking the amp is enough for him to have his own page
Although i'm pretty sure he got defeated by Vilgax with the crystal so i guess he'd still be High 8-C physically lol
Thanks Firey, He told me it's 8-C.You need to ask DMUA what calculation he accepted at the time. The first attempt or the recalc?
oh okThe amp wore off by then due to partly restoring his planet.
What kind of planet are we talking aboutThe amp wore off by then due to partly restoring his planet.
I mean considering chromestone himself has never shown that lvl of speed I’d think that be proof on its ownI do in my years of expertise. Good luck finding counterproof.
Kevin would have caught on to that. Why do y'all explain everything in Ben 10 with PIS, the only real PIS I can think of is Swampfire not regenning from shit he should be able to. Anyways they were clearly relative in the fight, maybe Kevin had a slight AP disadvantage but he did seem confident in his ability to win that fight.
Lmao, you wanna join my Discord server?
Hi, I'm interesting in knowing your personal tiering for Ben's aliens what they should scale to and why.
Since past few years yes.Yall got a discord?
Not really, even Vilgax has faster travel speed. You can't use the feat itself to argue that speed gets amped if power gets amped in Ben 10 since my assertion is that a power amp never gives a speed amp in Ben 10 and that this speed feat isn't an exception.I mean considering chromestone himself has never shown that lvl of speed I’d think that be proof on its own
He was in his car, that wouldn't have worked. I was talking in general, I haven't used the word PIS for Ben 10 in like a year now. Being confident means that given all the info Kevin had at that moment, he was winning that fight. Then DH pulled out his OP finishing move, that was my point.Like he did when albedo original based his head in? I’ve only brought up pis like once in are discussion, what are you talking about? Kinda I guess, being confident dosen’t really mean much when you nearly get one shotted by an opponent that’s holding back
I don’t see what vilgax’s speed would have to do with chromestone’s travel speed but ok. So I can’t argue for something because you say I can’t, interesting.Not really, even Vilgax has faster travel speed. You can't use the feat itself to argue that speed gets amped if power gets amped in Ben 10 since my assertion is that a power amp never gives a speed amp in Ben 10 and that this speed feat isn't an exception.
He was in his car, that wouldn't have worked. I was talking in general, I haven't used the word PIS for Ben 10 in like a year now. Being confident means that given all the info Kevin had at that moment, he was winning that fight. Then DH pulled out his OP finishing move, that was my point.
ConsistencyI don’t see what vilgax’s speed would have to do with chromestone’s travel speed but ok.
Debating 101, you can't use your premise "Chromastone got a speed amp hence why he's so fast" in your argument "Chromastone has never flown so fast, his speed must have been amped".So I can’t argue for something because you say I can’t, interesting.
Kevin could just see the crystals coming and dodge... Someone else mentioned PIS before this in the thread, it's just a general thing people do in Ben 10 where they'll first claim PIS before looking for explanations, to the point of the absurb like calling DH beating Vilgax PIS. We've already gone over why Albedo wasn't holding back or at least not a lot, there was enough room for him to KO Kevin without killing him. Stronger people than DH usually can't even oneshot people as weak as armored Kevin who's way weaker than Colossus Kevin. IIRC DH doesn't grunt in pain much due to his physiology, even when he's being beaten. For instance Rex Salazar forcing Diamondhead to switch despite not visually damaging him iirc.Why not? I’m sure his crystals would be able to tear through a car. Ok that still doesn’t explain you mini rant but whatever, cool. Again doesn’t mean much when you get beaten by a holding back opponent, not really all of his attacks didn’t seem to do much to albido heck he didn’t even grunt in pain from his blows.
Cool, how dose chromestones travel speed scale to vilgax’s exactly?Consistency
Debating 101, you can't use your premise "Chromastone got a speed amp hence why he's so fast" in your argument "Chromastone has never flown so fast, his speed must have been amped".
Kevin could just see the crystals coming and dodge... Someone else mentioned PIS before this in the thread, it's just a general thing people do in Ben 10 where they'll first claim PIS before looking for explanations, to the point of the absurb like calling DH beating Vilgax PIS. We've already gone over why Albedo wasn't holding back or at least not a lot, there was enough room for him to KO Kevin without killing him. Stronger people than DH usually can't even oneshot people as weak as armored Kevin who's way weaker than Colossus Kevin. IIRC DH doesn't grunt in pain much due to his physiology, even when he's being beaten. For instance Rex Salazar forcing Diamondhead to switch despite not visually damaging him iirc.
There's also this. Though correct me if Kevin was (always) amped by the amulet.
I was merely adding this to show that having such flight speed is nothing special in the verse.Cool, how dose chromestones travel speed scale to vilgax’s exactly?
Burden of proof is on you to say that a power amp can give a speed amp in Ben 10. I already told you that you won't find any evidence of that to save you the trouble of having to look for that. Chromastone's flight speed has never been limited and this is the only time he even flies in space. Since there are no other long-term flight speed feats for Chromastone, you have no way to prove that Chromastone usually flies slower in space.Actually I can, chromestone has never shown to fly at this speeds on his own outside of this amp. Unless you have proof or some scaling to say otherwise then his simply just not that fast
Kevin's feet where stuck in order for that to work. I hope it thought you a lesson on how to scale a verse, if so then it might have helped future discussions. We did, I said that he could have just oneshot him with a punch which requires way less setup if he were way stronger than Kevin. Armored Kevin vs Vilgax in the AF finale. Yeah I checked that clip before posting, he does but he's almost completely broken so that's why I said that he doesn't do it much.Yes and ablido could just stop him like he did before. Ok did it reate to are discussion in any way? It’s something that is said in battle forums in general it’s not specific to the Ben 10 fandom. No actually we really haven’t I’ve mentioned it like two times and then you went on your pis rant. Ya and he also could have crushed right then and there. Like who? Actually he dose
How is it more impressive then what we already have for reboot characters lifting strength and feats on the main Vsbattle page ?Started watching the reboot (Cuz this is the only ben 10 series i have access to on HBO for some reason)
Here's a pretty cool feat
I was referring to the building being sent up by the suplex tbf, still it's probably like low into tier 7How is it more impressive then what we already have for reboot characters lifting strength and feats on the main Vsbattle page ?
That dosen’t really prove anything but okI was merely adding this to show that having such flight speed is nothing special in the verse.
Burden of proof is on you to say that a power amp can give a speed amp in Ben 10. I already told you that you won't find any evidence of that to save you the trouble of having to look for that. Chromastone's flight speed has never been limited and this is the only time he even flies in space. Since there are no other long-term flight speed feats for Chromastone, you have no way to prove that Chromastone usually flies slower in space.And in fact I have him at way faster than his flight speed when it comes to short distances, but that's not relevant here.
Kevin's feet where stuck in order for that to work. I hope it thought you a lesson on how to scale a verse, if so then it might have helped future discussions. We did, I said that he could have just oneshot him with a punch which requires way less setup if he were way stronger than Kevin. Armored Kevin vs Vilgax in the AF finale. Yeah I checked that clip before posting, he does but he's almost completely broken so that's why I said that he doesn't do it much.
Has anyone calced andres surviving this seismic bomb
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If this is city lvl then why is everyone like building lvl?Andreas survives a seismic blast
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‘Cause no one made an upgrade thread.If this is city lvl then why is everyone like building lvl?
Hmmm, well maybe we should after gathering other feats‘Cause no one made an upgrade thread.
Also didn’t a younger vilgax survive multiple nukes?
Looks like this was rejectedVilgax survives a nuke (Redone)
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Naw just one method got rejected because it did some radiation/heat based stuff if i remember correctlyLooks like this was rejected
Oh okNaw just one method got rejected because it did some radiation/heat based stuff if i remember correctly
The regular explosion was evaluated it seems