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Oh really? I'll check it out later. I'll probably add that to the blog itself later
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Bayverse Transformers Revisions.
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Yeah, I initially made the calc converting Epps's 10 tons to metric tons which is how I got the 131 tons of TNT yield before posting it here and then eventually on your blog's comments.
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Pretty sure his only other legitimate fight in the series is when he bullies Ironhide and Ratchet at the same time, so him downscaling from Prime doesn’t seem that weird imo
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Also I don't think everyone should just downscale from Optimus, considering him being like the one of the peaks of the verse.
Characters like AOE to TLK Bumblebee could either be At most 8-B+ or just downscale to 8-B
Characters like AOE to TLK Bumblebee could either be At most 8-B+ or just downscale to 8-B
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Dunno how useful it is now, probably not at all, but I found the scene where Epps says "10 tons of dead robot":
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The only people that should downscale from Prime are Starscream, Blackout/Grindor, Grimlock and AOE-TLK Bee (and ig TLK Barricade’s durability)
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But the start of the scaling chain is from Blackoit's 8-B which would mean everyone downscales from 8-B+
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We really shouldn’t be scaling everyone from Blackout tbh, he’s definitely a top tier.
Didn’t Ironhide harm Demolishor, why don’t we scale him to that?
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To scale everyone to baseline High 8-C while everyone else is like peak 8-B is a bit, but I dunno tbh
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Considering that Blackout could one-shot Ironhide through a shield and Starscream was bullying Ironhide and Ratchet at the same time, it doesn’t seem that weird tbh.
Especially since Blackout and Starscream downscale from Prime (and his calc is barely into 8-B+), so they’d either be 8-B or At most 8-B+.
Especially since Blackout and Starscream downscale from Prime (and his calc is barely into 8-B+), so they’d either be 8-B or At most 8-B+.
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Then seems fine I suppose
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The scaling still doesn’t work out perfectly though, we might need some more calcs.
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I can't think of anything at the moment. I'll try look for something. But we could go ahead and just edit you fully scales to 8-B+, the downscaling can come later
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So Optimus, Megatron, Lockdown and Sentinel.
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I'll do it now
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I'm done
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Wouldn’t Optimus’ calc be linked in his durability, not AP?
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You're right, I'll fix it now.
EDIT: done
EDIT: done
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I edited Megatron, Sentinel and Lockdown’s AP justifications to make them a bit better and fit with the revision.
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I thought we just went with just 4.3 instead? Tho if we are taking statements from the movie, I guess we could do the same for the Low 7-C end of the fallen as it's pretty much the same situation as the 10 tons thing
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Guess that works.
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But that would mean every character who downscales from 8-B+ receives 8-A.
And maybe at this point everyone should just downscale. It seems really odd to place Ironhide at 2 tons when other characters are like tens of times stronger than him.
And maybe at this point everyone should just downscale. It seems really odd to place Ironhide at 2 tons when other characters are like tens of times stronger than him.
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So like, where does high 8-C and High 8-C+ come from?
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High 8-C+ comes from downscaling from Blackout, and High 8-C comes from downscaling from the High 8-C+ characters.
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I hate downscaling because there's no joule amount to actually quantify 
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Well, when you downscale to a + rating, you go to the baseline of said + rating. (so the High 8-C+ characters would be 6.5 tons)
I have no idea for the High 8-Cs, I guess they’re baseline/2 tons? ¯\(ツ)/¯
I have no idea for the High 8-Cs, I guess they’re baseline/2 tons? ¯\(ツ)/¯
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Not really? They'd still more or less scale to Blackout in that case.
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He does, but we weren’t using it for some reason.
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Except we're now downscaling Blackout from Optimus
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Unless we’re using the 8-A Optimus calc, Blackout’s calc works fine for downscaling.
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I think some of us want using as a likely, same goes for Low 7-C
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Blackout would still more or less be 8-B even if we're using the 8-A calc, since Optimus straight-up ripped out Grindor's head when not holding back. Blackout and Grindor IMHO don't even hold a candle to a serious Prime.
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Also Serious prime was able to wreck, Megatron, Starscream and Grind or so maybe scaling to a serious prime may not be that great
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Here’s the thing though, when Prime crashed on Cybertron, wasn’t he extremely weakened at that point? He shouldn’t be weaker than that just because he’s holding back.
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