- 626
- 21
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Battle of the lance lords
- Thread starter GalacticIron
- Start date
XitSign
He/Him- 3,218
- 1,905
Byleth is about 5.8 Teratons, Ephriam is (currently) baseline 7 Teratons
That's only a 1.2 difference, Byleth's spells decently outrange, he can turn back time for mistakes or losses and has stat boosts and healing Ephriam doesn't have.
Ephriam, on the other hand, lacks anything like magic swords like Eirika, so he's just limited to strength and his skill, but Byleth's not too far behind in strength, is decently skilled and smart, and definitely has versatility as well as a rewind button.
I say Byleth takes this.
That's only a 1.2 difference, Byleth's spells decently outrange, he can turn back time for mistakes or losses and has stat boosts and healing Ephriam doesn't have.
Ephriam, on the other hand, lacks anything like magic swords like Eirika, so he's just limited to strength and his skill, but Byleth's not too far behind in strength, is decently skilled and smart, and definitely has versatility as well as a rewind button.
I say Byleth takes this.
- 626
- 21
- Thread starter
- #3
I think all the FE8 characters are limitted to their legendary weapons in their 6-B keys so it wouldn't really matter.
- 626
- 21
- Thread starter
- #5
I guess i can make the fight start at melee range.
XitSign
He/Him- 3,218
- 1,905
It gives Ephriam a chance to fight some, he's no longer completely outranged.
But Byleth still has elemental magic variety he can use creatively, stat boosts to minimize the (small) AP gap, healing, skill to keep up.
...And a reset button.
The closest this fight gets is melee range and Divine Pulse being restricted but even THEN Ephriam has only a tiny lead in strength against a guy who has a bigger arsenal and is similar in skill, if not superior, to him.
I don't think Ephriam wins this battle unless FE8 gets that revision we occasionally talk about doing and it goes anywhere.
But Byleth still has elemental magic variety he can use creatively, stat boosts to minimize the (small) AP gap, healing, skill to keep up.
...And a reset button.
The closest this fight gets is melee range and Divine Pulse being restricted but even THEN Ephriam has only a tiny lead in strength against a guy who has a bigger arsenal and is similar in skill, if not superior, to him.
I don't think Ephriam wins this battle unless FE8 gets that revision we occasionally talk about doing and it goes anywhere.
- 302
- 37
Yeah, Ephraim vs Dimitri would be a closer match up, Byleth has everything but AP in his favor which is so close in retrospective it doesn't even matter with Byleth's Stats Amp.
- 626
- 21
- Thread starter
- #8
Changed it!PuasLuisZX said:
- 31,341
- 34,071
The FE8 cast have magic swords in their High 8-C, but their Holy Weapons are the only Tier 6 attacks they got.
- 302
- 37
Ephraim has the AP advantage with 7 Teratons, while Dimitri has 5.8 Teratons. While both of them are very skilled lore-wise Ephraim has the tactical advantage at being capable of higher tactical accomplishments than Dimitri, while also having a huge mobility advantage in horses.
Dimitri, on the other hand, can migrate his AP disadvantage via damaging boost and pasive skills that makes his durability and survival better and is faster with Stats Amplification. Also he has the range advantage, but it's largely migrated via mobility. Let not forget that Ephraim could manipulate his soul in case of emergency with his Sacred Stone. Voting Ephraim.
Dimitri, on the other hand, can migrate his AP disadvantage via damaging boost and pasive skills that makes his durability and survival better and is faster with Stats Amplification. Also he has the range advantage, but it's largely migrated via mobility. Let not forget that Ephraim could manipulate his soul in case of emergency with his Sacred Stone. Voting Ephraim.
- 31,341
- 34,071
I should point out that Dimitri could spam the Knight Killer technique, which is an Anti-Calvary attack. And using it combined with his Hero's Relic makes it more broken.
- 626
- 21
- Thread starter
- #12
bump
- 31,341
- 34,071
Also, I don't see how manipulating his own soul helps in the thread.
- 31,341
- 34,071
And his crest can also double the already impressive damage on top of that.
- 31,341
- 34,071
Ephraim is technically an excellent one on one duelest given his training with Duessel, but Dimitri is much better in that regard for sure. But the fact that Ephraim only tied with Innes in a sparring match post game kind of shows he's that he isn't fully the strongest man in his own universe.
- 31,341
- 34,071
Yes, I know of that.
- 302
- 37
I think I'm changing my vote for Dimitri, Dimitri has a higher versatility and he is the better trained fighter of the two.
On the other hand, tactical advantage is a huge deal in skilled warriors in Fire Emblem and they have been proven to be very strong for the most part due understanding both the tactical aspects of being expert tacticians and respected warriors for they skill and strength in the battlefield, such as Marth, Alm and the trio of avatars in Smash.
On the other hand, tactical advantage is a huge deal in skilled warriors in Fire Emblem and they have been proven to be very strong for the most part due understanding both the tactical aspects of being expert tacticians and respected warriors for they skill and strength in the battlefield, such as Marth, Alm and the trio of avatars in Smash.
- 302
- 37
Bump
Similar threads
- Locked
