Battle for 2A Anos Vs Madoka

[Delta333]

does Madoka uses his sealing hax as the first move to begin with? .

Yes,she does it in character

What if I changed it to "bloodlusted".

You can do if you want,this is your thread after all,but changing to "both know each other" seems more aaccurate because he need to activate his eyes first if you want to go with instantly conceptual destruction

 

[Dereck03]

iirc Madoka seal is based in her law hax... Anos law hax--->Madoka law and Nonexistent multiverse gets destroyed by Anos I'm based

 

[Orioreeem]

So on this wiki if sealing is done with law hax you need to resist both sealing and law hax to completly resist attack right? Only resisting one hax won't be enough?

 

[RamadhanDayYet]

Yes,she does it in character

Feats?

You can do if you want,this is your thread after all,but changing to "both know each other" seems more aaccurate because he need to activate his eyes first if you want to go with instantly conceptual destruction

I'll change it but still thinking this seal hax can easily get negated because it's law based sealing hax

 

[OnsokunoSonic]

iirc Madoka seal is based in her law hax... Anos law hax--->Madoka law and Nonexistent multiverse gets destroyed by Anos I'm based

Bruh fr

 

[Dereck03]

So on this wiki if sealing is done with law hax you need to resist both sealing and law hax to completly resist attack right? Only resisting one hax won't be enough?

If you are sealed in a place that you can easily destroy what will happen then?

 

[Delta333]

Feats?

Feats...she seals?

I'll change it but still thinking this seal hax can easily get negated because it's law based sealing hax

It need to resist both?

 

[OnsokunoSonic]

Law based seal hax, boy, just negate it's source, no need to beat it's avatar if you can destroy it's true form right?

 

[RamadhanDayYet]

Feats...she seals?

Feats she use it as the first move, but forget it, it's Bloodlusted now

It need resist both?

As my experience to the low tier hax debate, you can counter a subhax that based on some main hax with the same level or even higher main hax

 

[Dereck03]

Law based seal hax, boy, just negate it's source, no need to beat it's avatar if you can destroy it's true form right?

Madoka can destroy permanently Anos' source?

 

[OnsokunoSonic]

Madoka can destroy permanently Anos' source?

No, no, i mean negate Madoka's law hax (Which is the source of it's seal hax)

 

[Orioreeem]

It need to resist both?

I heard that that is how this wiki treats such powers. I was thinking about making qna treas about it.

 

[Dereck03]

No, no, i mean negate Madoka's law hax (Which is the source of it's seal hax)

Idk...

 

[Delta333]

Not sure if he need to resist both or not but anyways since now it's bloodlusted,Madoka can passively nullify all Anos's abilties with skill seals+magia seals,including passive hax and it upscales to her 4-D level so what can Anos do?

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Note: bloodlusting both characters will mean the match can't be used for a "top list" since it goes against SBA.

I heard that that is how this wiki treats such powers. I was thinking about making qna treas about it.

Yes you need to resist both and don't forget resistance =/= immunity.

 

[Dereck03]

Not sure if he need to resist both or not but anyways since now it's bloodlusted,Madoka can passively nullify all Anos's abilties with skill seals+magia seals,including passive hax and it upscales to her 4-D level so what can Anos do?

Can she nullify Anos Cm, Law etc? give him venuzdona already and settle this battle

 

[Delta333]

Can she nullify Anos Cm, Law etc? give him venuzdona already and settle this battle

Yes why not,she prevents them from being active first,not nullify them when they try to affect her because it sounds like NLF af

 

[Zencha9]

let's talk about the passives first after that comes in character attacks

 

[Orioreeem]

Yes why not,she prevents them from being active first,not nullify them when they try to affect her because it sounds like NLF af

So she is nulling a cause rather then the effect?

 

[Dereck03]

Yes why not,she prevents them from being active first,not nullify them when they try to affect her because it sounds like NLF af

You can't prevent something that is basically much superior to you

 

[Dereck03]

According to you Anos haxs potency are pretty above Madoka haxs potency

 

[Orioreeem]

Note: bloodlusting both characters will mean the match can't be used for a "top list" since it goes against SBA.

If i give a character a wepon at the start of a battle can that be added?

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

Where does... this 4D hax PMMM comes from?

 

[OnsokunoSonic]

Law hax if i remembered correctly

Where does... this 4D hax PMMM comes from?

 

[Delta333]

You can't prevent something that is basically much superior to you

According to you Anos haxs potency are pretty above Madoka haxs potency

yeah sure,what I mean is sealing his power so that he can't even use it in the first place,not nullifying it when it's in activated state

Where does... this 4D hax PMMM comes from?

https://vsbattles.com/threads/ultimate-madoka-revisions-some-other-stuff.73049/

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/ultimate-madoka-revisions-some-other-stuff.73049/

Where...?

 

[Dereck03]

yeah sure,what I mean is sealing his power so that he can't even use it in the first place,not nullifying it when it's in activated state

Soo Anos eyes passively destroyed any passive that try to affect Anos, and can't destroy this?

 

[Delta333]

Where...?

Memoria stuff? Also in Puella magi physiology page

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

Memoria stuff? Also in Puella magi physiology page

Oh my God what's so hard to give direct citations rather than telling me to "read all by yourself!".

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

let's talk about the passives first after that comes in character attacks

IIRC Madoka is essentially composite PMNM (with a few exceptions like UKGs NEP 2) while Anos is Anos.

If i give a character a wepon at the start of a battle can that be added?

If it's standard equipment then yes.

Also y'all should really call more PMMM supporters before making assumptions, I've notice Delta is the only one that's really arguing for Madoka tbh.

 

[Dereck03]

IIRC Madoka is essentially composite PMNM (with a few exceptions like UKGs NEP 2) while Anos is Anos.

If it's standard equipment then yes.

Also y'all should really call more PMMM supporters before making assumptions, I've notice Delta is the only one that's really arguing for Madoka tbh.

Anos is able to use Venuzdona then.... Soo

Also I don't care that much for this battle since is going nowhere

 

[Fixxed]

Think like this.

Anos eyes=passively
Madoka= passively sealing.

Madoka can't negate passively eyes Anos, that's why this reason is not relevant.

Yes why not,she prevents them from being active first,not nullify them when they try to affect her because it sounds like NLF af

 

[Delta333]

Soo Anos eyes passively destroyed any passive that try to affect Anos, and can't destroy this?

Because she can seal passive hax so Anos eyes will be slower

Oh my God what's so hard to give direct citations rather than telling me to "read all by yourself!".

But that's literally in OP tho but if you can't still find it then here:

"Anyways, the list of (passive) memoria include stuff such as Charm, Stu, Bind, Poison, Bur, Curse, Fog, Darkness, Dazzle, Skill Seal, Magia Seal (Not passive in-game yet), MP Damage (Not passive in game yet).

In Vsbattles terms, it's a lot more abilities than it seems by name alone, Bind for example being a combination of Paralysis Inducement, Power Nullification, and Regenerationn Negation."

Also y'all should really call more PMMM supporters before making assumptions, I've notice Delta is the only one that's really arguing for Madoka tbh.

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no one will come because they all leave this forum

 

[WrongIdea21]

Interesting, what wincon for both of them?

 

[Orioreeem]

If it's standard equipment then yes.0

I meant it more like Anos already having his sword in his hand at the start of the battle. Is that allowed?

 

[RamadhanDayYet]

Yes you need to resist both and don't forget resistance =/= immunity

The fact that her sealing is based on law manipulation where anos resist it on 99+ level , and what does she do with anos passive hax that is stronger than her hax in the first place.

,including passive hax and it upscales to her 4-D level so what can Anos do?

Where does 4D hax comes from

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

But that's literally in OP tho but if you can't still find it then here:

"Anyways, the list of (passive) memoria include stuff such as Charm, Stu, Bind, Poison, Bur, Curse, Fog, Darkness, Dazzle, Skill Seal, Magia Seal (Not passive in-game yet), MP Damage (Not passive in game yet).

In Vsbattles terms, it's a lot more abilities than it seems by name alone, Bind for example being a combination of Paralysis Inducement, Power Nullification, and Regenerationn Negation."

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I'm actually asking if whether her hax are 4D or not, not about what her hax are. Anyway, since the speed isn't equalized here does anyone have proofs that her omnipresence extends, and has Immeasurable attack speed? We don't assume an omnipresent being to have it automatically without implication.

 

[RamadhanDayYet]

Let's forgot about venuzdonor first, Because that would be overkill, I still thinks anos can still passively destroy her even without venuzdonor.

 

[Dereck03]

Anos passive haxs potency ->>>>> Madoka passive potency I don't see who she can seal Anos eyes even more when those eyes are made for destroying any passive or thing that tries to affect Anos in any way, and well those eyes also have passive power Nullification on a greater scale than madoka

 

[RamadhanDayYet]

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I'm actually asking if whether her hax are 4D or not, not about what her hax are. Anyway, since the speed isn't equalized does anyone have proofs that her omnipresence extends, and has Immeasurable attack speed? We don't assume omnipresence to have it automatically without implication.

Yeah this.

How "fast" is Madoka anyway?