Yeah lmao. Throw Bankai on there and that becomes a f**king 5000x multi. If Ichigo could get to 2-C bare minimum, it would give him a hella strong multiplier chain.So a 500× from true shikai without even using bankai??
Btw, how do we treat ulquiorra's ressurections and ichigo's hollow mask? Also 10×'s?
Yep, the Final Grimmjow Fight key for Pre-ts Ichigo shows it jumps from 289 teratons to 3.89 petatons, and Ulq Res goes from 3.89 to 38.9
Actually, we don't have Hierro multipliers or amps on profiles. I think it was treated as base durability.
I think it's pointless to ask at this point, but what about hierro? (I plan a multipliers crt for the god tiers)
Oh, i see. Thanks a lot
Getsuga + Gran Rey is currently 10x. Reaper has said his future plans already.
I wanted to ask, would this multiplier matter in an hypothetical vs match, where the opponent scales to one or two universes higher than Ichigo’s 2C scaling? If both were 2C
Nope. Because scaling higher in universes is simply a stomp diff. That's an entire infinity over what another character can do. Once you reach 2-C, you just become stronger than baseline whatever the amount of universes you can destroy, like how in Dragon Ball there are characters who are multiple sextillions of times stronger than 2-C scaling to 3 (or 6 in the anime) universes, but if they fought someone who doesn't scale to their universe count (be it greater than or less than) it's a stomp
So boring, the higher the tier the more boring the match ups become honestly, maybe I should spam CRT downgrades from now on......
Once u reach tier 2, its either how many universes are you destroying or how haxxed you are compared to someone else, tier 1 is diabolical in terms of that.
Tier 1 is just where shit becomes terrible to debate. Sure it's big and "oooooh, I'm 8D" but ACTUALLY getting matches that work is a pain in the ass. You also have a LOT of omnipotent characters with shit like HDE, which is something not every tier 1 has (aka the Guilty Gear folks)
And alot of times, when you find a character who scales the exact same as you do, they just omegastomp you with the most insane bs hax you have ever seen.
Exactly
"By farting at immeasurable speed, I am able create a vortex that insta kills anyone who is in a 11 D range" ass ability.
Yeah girkio says that their are infinite torrents/streams of the time. Then proceeds to sacrifice a timeline tsukishima implanted in a tree. Time in bleach is odd every person and object his it's own timeline. Then you have the main universe timeline. Then you have possible the garganta timeline.
Imo, it could be L1C.
You’re crazy if you thing the GJ Ichigo used on Uryu and the one he used one Yhwach were the same
What exactly makes them not the same?
I 100% agree up until a certain point. Like take for instance Ichigo going through Irazusando. He held the weight of 3 universes solely because he is a perfect hybrid that could replace the SK. You can’t use him fighting Uryu and give him the same stats
He held the realms because he has massive reiyorku, not because he is an hybrid. The main thing here is being a chimera gives you massive reiyorku but you don't need to be a hybrid, it's why Aizen who isn't a hybrid can replace the soul king because the hygoku grants him the reiyorku to do that.
Could you argue that Vasto Lorde was like a 100x amp in power since it made base Ichigo stronger than Ulq who at that point was had increased his stats by 100x using two Ress's?
Add another 10× because ichigo was just in bankai when going full hollow and full power hollow mask ichigo was just slightly stronger than base ulquiorra who was dogwalking him in res1
Oh I was measuring 200x from Bankai Hollow Mask. If you're trying to measure from Bankai Ichigo, it would be 2000x and if you're doing to from Shikai Ichigo, it would be 4000x.
Why 4000 for shikai?
Cause Bankai is currently at least 2x Shikai, in the keys we're talking about.
At least 5x speed. Unfortunately, it'll be hard to get it to 5x power due to data book scans.
Since Yhwach implies that Ichigo's True Bankai was stronger than his True Hollow Form, I feel like you could argue they're both >200x.
Not really how that works, since Ichigo's true Bankai could be 1x and still stronger than his True Hollow Form by far.
