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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

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He doesn’t need to answer anything if he doesn’t feel like it 🗿
I think my mobile froze up before I finished answering
But that’s literally what you can say to fit your need on this site😂. TS Ichigo is Bankai Senjumaru level. Kubo didn’t say it was wrong did he?either way in a story narrative which is what I’ve been trying to tell you before you assumed I was talking in a power scaling narrative. TS Ichigo fighting Base Yhwach is impressive. Before you came at me with all your accusations
 
Yeah the onus is on you to disprove what’s accepted. So 🪞

Equivocating as you’ve done isn’t going to get you anywhere
Just cause something is on a profile doesn't mean it's true.
And just saying it can penetrate anything isn't a proof.
Why not also time erasure? Why not conceptual space/time erasure? Why not taking the word anything to the fullest.
 
1) you jumped into his and I conversation so look in the mirror
2) it’s a public forum, if you don’t want to be replied to don’t post
3) 🤡
I'll let that clown emoji slide. I used to have Bleachtards for breakfast, but I’ve given up cannibalism. Turns out, it’s frowned upon. But don’t get too comfortable, a CRT is coming your way.
 
I think my mobile froze up before I finished answering
But that’s literally what you can say to fit your need on this site😂. TS Ichigo is Bankai Senjumaru level. Kubo didn’t say it was wrong did he?either way in a story narrative which is what I’ve been trying to tell you before you assumed I was talking in a power scaling narrative. TS Ichigo fighting Base Yhwach is impressive. Before you came at me with all your accusations
What is my agenda? Mr “I know everything Arc is thinking”. And the level of impressive that something is is subjective. Furthermore, why is Almighty Yhwach not using his hax the same thing as base Yhwach without the Almighty? You keep asserting that as fact without any proof, quite literally headcanon.
 
Just cause something is on a profile doesn't mean it's true.
And just saying it can penetrate anything isn't a proof.
Why not also time erasure? Why not conceptual space/time erasure? Why not taking the word anything to the fullest.
Because you’re making the claim here. You’re asserting X. You must substantiate that. Make a CRT on it if you feel so strongly.
 
So, a lil out of topic but i was on the RVR and i started wondering what does a ban do on here on other wiki/fandom pages? Not let u comment or does it outright prevent u from entering the whole site?
 
100% off topic @arc, but can the theoretical destruction of the realms get an upgrade? Considering we know it it was causing devastation across the 3 realms?
 
How is this supposed to a be a meaningful insight? We're on VS wiki so I talk about his VS wiki scaling.
Yep you’re right. That’s why you shouldn’t post about anything unless it regards VS wiki scaling.

Saying Ichigo beating base Yhwach isn’t impressive contradicts that yet you felt the need to clarify it
 
The impressive argument is stupid since impressiveness is subjective. A layman viewer would find it impressive for someone to beat up base Yhwach, but someone who’s more knowledgeable on the story and the lore of Bleach probably won’t find transcendent level characters beating Bankai Yama level characters that impressive. Albeit, the anime is turbo buffing Squad 0, which in turn may turbo buff strength returned (9 years part of the song) Yhwach, and in domino effect fashion recontextualizes TS Ichigo dominating that Yhwach as impressive to both the layman viewer and the more knowledgeable viewer.
 
The impressive argument is stupid since impressiveness is subjective. A layman viewer would find it impressive for someone to beat up base Yhwach, but someone who’s more knowledgeable on the story and the lore of Bleach probably won’t find transcendent level characters beating Bankai Yama level characters that impressive. Albeit, the anime is turbo buffing Squad 0, which in turn may turbo buff strength returned (9 years part of the song) Yhwach, and in domino effect fashion recontextualizes TS Ichigo dominating that Yhwach as impressive to both the layman viewer and the more knowledgeable viewer.
There are still casual viewers that think Yamaji can beat 1st fusion Aizen. Hell, there are still people who think he can beat Ichibe.

Not to mention the people who are still coping saying Kenpachi isn't transcendant level in CFYOW-onwards despite having direct statements saying he is transcendant tier in stats. And again, they also think Yamaji beats him.
 
There are still casual viewers that think Yamaji can beat 1st fusion Aizen. Hell, there are still people who think he can beat Ichibe.

Not to mention the people who are still coping saying Kenpachi isn't transcendant level in CFYOW-onwards despite having direct statements saying he is transcendant tier in stats. And again, they also think Yamaji beats him.
To be fair, some people still think the light novels are non-canon and/or they are "Kenpachi wank fanfiction." They are wrong, but those ideas are still out there.
 
Also, I just realized. Yamamoto is THE most overrated Bleach character in terms of in-verse scaling. People are quick to say Kenpachi when it comes down to it, but although you can make cases for TYBW, CFYOW Kenny is HIM. Meanwhile people are riding Yama like he's a f#cking mechanical bull. It's ironic how quick they are to throw stones at the Kenpachis, but then when it's time for their judgment they just huddle up and start throwing stones out of their glass house. People are out here making claims that he's transcendant tier or that he could beat Almighty Yhwach (thank GOD the anime fully debunked that, I was praying for that) while they say that CFYOW Kenpachi can't beat Base Yhwach or even Jugram. I would argue Soul Crush kills Jugram, let alone a single swing.
 
There are still casual viewers that think Yamaji can beat 1st fusion Aizen. Hell, there are still people who think he can beat Ichibe.

Not to mention the people who are still coping saying Kenpachi isn't transcendant level in CFYOW-onwards despite having direct statements saying he is transcendant tier in stats. And again, they also think Yamaji beats him.
This argument premise is so silly lmao.
 
I feel as if SAFWY can't be defended as much against that claim as much as CFYOW. Not to say SAFWY doesn't have an actual story, but that Itto Kaso feat going a little too far.
The problem I have with it is, unless you read Japanese, you can't judge Spirits are Forever with You as a book. We only have a summary of it.
 
Yeah,in the manga, base Yhwach post 9 years of strengh is much more powerfull stat wise than before as he regained his true strengh, even without almighty active, as that strengh is needed to wield the Almighty correctly, according to Jugram.

But in the manga, Jugram say that Yhwach could have used the almighty (opened his eyes) at any time prior, at the cost of ALL his ritters.



But we know the anime changed that with ichibe sealing Yhwach's eyes, "never to open again until your death". So i don't even know if they will rely on the "9 years of strengh" angle anymore and thus stating "base Yhwach" got much stronger.

But instead of a statement we may get a feat. Given that the Ichigo vs Yhwach fight start with Yhwach in base , there is a chance that we see Yhwach stab the Soul King while in base as well, wich would raise his scaling anyway.
 
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Keigo and his sister can apparently just... see Hollows. What the hell? Why did I not remember that? Do people just manifest that power out of nowhere?

Plus, Mizuiro... that boy ain't right. I feel like something very bad once happened to him.
 
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