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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Arcker123 said:
All of Chapter 683 was Aizen fighting Yhwach alone, Ichigo and Renjin were illusions. He was banking on Ichigo showing up at the end, noticing Yhwach was under Kyoka suigetsu, and attacking him to complete his plan.

It's a very impressive planning feat.
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To add onto this, it's confirmed in CFYOW that you need to manually shift voices and create the illusions. The fact that Aizen can do this effortlessly compared to Tokinada is pretty crazy
 
CFYOW made it a point to give Tokinada tons of weaknesses that Aizen didn't have to show Aizen's superior power and skill. That detail isn't surprising.
 
Arcker123 said:
All of those crazy toon force and luck hax just for Aizen to go
Joesuke Bizen : r/bleach
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I don't see the resemblance. This is an insult to democracy; Aizen never fell down the stairs.
 
Arcker123 said:
CFYOW made it a point to give Tokinada tons of weaknesses that Aizen didn't have to show Aizen's superior power and skill. That detail isn't surprising.
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Are you saying they don't exist for Aizen to begin with or he's so good we never knew it had weakness? Still didn't read
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
It means Aizen is so skilled that those weaknesses are non-existent for him, we never knew they existed until CFYOW made them known.
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No. They just didn't exist for Aizen. Tokinada has a weaker form of KS due to being weaker.

Aizen just has a stronger Kyoka because he is stronger.
 
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The fact that Grand Fisher has both outwitted and outfought Soul Society for over 54 years is either an incredible feat for himself or a illustration of how incompetent Soul Society can be at times, or maybe it's a combination of both to some extent.
 
Deceived3596 said:
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The fact that Grand Fisher has both outwitted and outfought Soul Society for over 54 years is either an incredible feat for himself or a illustration of how incompetent Soul Society can be at times, or maybe it's a combination of both to some extent.
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Ngl, this also is a feat for Ichigo considering how he fought him 1 on 1 with no real training
 
I'd also like to say that the fight was some pretty genius storytelling once you get the full picture. Two sides of the same coin were responsible for Masaki's death, Grand Fisher, a Hollow that directly killed her, and Yhwach, whos actions lead to her death, which was preventable through the powers he stole.

Ichigo failed to beat Grand Fisher, yet Grand Fisher didn't kill Ichigo, which sort of eludes to how Hollows aren't his true enemy. This is proven as we see Zangetsu, the real one, was in fact the Hollow White, who also was responsible for Ichigo's existence as he was the reason Masaki and Isshin met.

Meanwhile, Yhwach, who is the sole reason for her death, was killed by Ichigo. Although Quincy Zangetsu ultimately nortured Ichigo's growth with White, he was merely an assistant, as he didn't know the full extent of Ichigo's power nor did he allow Ichigo to tap into it. This partially was responsible for Ichigo's death at the hands of Ulquiorra, which White had saved him from, paralleling how Masaki's death was at the hands of Grand Fisher, but Yhwach stopped her from fighting back.

Ichigo failing to kill Grand Fisher eluded to how Hollows had a lot more of a positive effect on his life and it also showed that he should have compassion for them, since Grand Fisher could've killed him at the end, but chose to run, which Ichigo shows this level of mercy when he beat Grimmjow and refused to kill him. And killing Yhwach was his true fufilment of revenge, but also acceptance as he had led himself to accept Yhwach as Zangetsu, and never showed long-term animosity towards Uryu, even after his betrayal.
 
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Q648: When Tōshirō had his Bankai stolen by the medallion, he described it as if Tōshirō's own soul
Hyōrinmaru had also been robbed. However, the fact that he could still use his Shikai, means that the Zanpakutō's soul is not necessary to access that stage? In the Zanpakutō Rebellion Arc, only those who had mastered Bankai could use their Shikai, even if their Zanpakutō had materialized and rebelled. So, does this mean that when a Shinigami masters their Bankai, the Shikai's power manifests as the Shinigami's own power, and not as that of the Zanpakutō itself?

KUBO: Shikai is the state where the Shinigami's power is reflected in the sword, while Bankai is the state in which the ego born later from the sword is developed and manifested.

Q649: Hot springs frequently appear during recovery scenes. Do you like hot springs?

KUBO: Due to the image strongly linked to Japanese culture, it brings a visual change and is a recovery method that everyone can understand.
 
Malekith said:
Q648: When Tōshirō had his Bankai stolen by the medallion, he described it as if Tōshirō's own soul
Hyōrinmaru had also been robbed. However, the fact that he could still use his Shikai, means that the Zanpakutō's soul is not necessary to access that stage? In the Zanpakutō Rebellion Arc, only those who had mastered Bankai could use their Shikai, even if their Zanpakutō had materialized and rebelled. So, does this mean that when a Shinigami masters their Bankai, the Shikai's power manifests as the Shinigami's own power, and not as that of the Zanpakutō itself?

KUBO: Shikai is the state where the Shinigami's power is reflected in the sword, while Bankai is the state in which the ego born later from the sword is developed and manifested.

Q649: Hot springs frequently appear during recovery scenes. Do you like hot springs?

KUBO: Due to the image strongly linked to Japanese culture, it brings a visual change and is a recovery method that everyone can understand.
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Kubo lowkey implying a canonicity regarding Zanpakuto Rebellion. I’m going to make a thread soon for that arc, see if there’s any major contradictions.
 
How many novels does Bleach have in total? What are these novels and do they have English translations?
 
Noes said:
How many novels does Bleach have in total? What are these novels and do they have English translations?
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Letters From the Other Side, Honey Dish Rhapsody, SAFWY, The Death Save the Strawberry, We do Knot Always Love You, Beginning of the Revive of Tomorrow, and finally, CYFOW.

All of them have english translations sans SAFWY
 
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