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one arm was x10 according to an earlier post here base on databook info
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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thought it was 2 not 10
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I may have remember wrong but it was something about his arm form been equal to a resurrection or something like that
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i know that when his arm grows he gets bigger but i think it was a 2x
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...Why the **** are these people so dumb...
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You better?
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discussion for it should be in the death battle discussion thread buttt
Madara vs Aizen
Madara vs Aizen
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They might leave the planetary and up scaling for the QnA rather than address it in the video itself tbh.
I expect Aizen to at least be country level, Island is too much of a lowball.
I expect Aizen to at least be country level, Island is too much of a lowball.
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alucard is fighting dio, hands down
predicting gremmy meteor or wandenreich lift for aizen
predicting gremmy meteor or wandenreich lift for aizen
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They already said Ichigo and Naruto don't scale to Kaguya and Yhwach and that they are not even planet buster with their own power. Aizen and Madara would not scale at all. I bet nothing from the light novels will be use either. In their behind the scene video for Naruto vs Ichigo they said they went into the fight knowing that Naruto was going to be the winner. Is not who can win a "single" fight but who has the more chance of winning "multiple" fights and Madara has that in the bag.
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i would not use old info. new research team peeps since then. i know noc/felicia buys 3x planet back in 2020
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I’ve never watch a death battle where they go back on what they already said. Do you have an example where this happened? Haven’t they use the same intro and research from a character who is appearing for the second time in DB?
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kingdom hearts. had it like city in sora vs pit. This year they put the verse at large star
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oni, akuma's transformation
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their fights are popularity based
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they have research.
omm/dbx is pure popularity/vote based/ animator choice
omm/dbx is pure popularity/vote based/ animator choice
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My big brain is saying they'll scale both Madara and Aizen to similar moon levels (because you can manipulate the Wandenreich feat to fit an agenda with assumed time frames), Madara will be FTL, Aizen might be FTL, and Madara will win via "out-haxing" Aizen.
Albeit, if they're sticking with Gremmy's meteor/Wandenreich for Aizen, they could have Madara AP stomp if they give him the 5-A tree and Hag calcs.
Not a high bar for them to beat with Naruto vs Ichigo, considering they entirely misrepresented his form's design, I'll conisder it a W if they do the following 3 things:
1) Have decent scaling for Aizen (aka give a proper scale as opposed to "hand waving" Ichigo's scaling to Yhwach, mention how he got stronger, talk about his back scaling from God Yhwach, etc)
2) Use the proper character models, don't throw around FKT Aizen using Muken Aizen's stats (throwback to original Bankai Ichigo fit with the True Bankai, super cringe)
3) Reference the canonicity of CFYOW in some capacity (ie they should mention how Aizen > Res Hikone > damn near the entire living verse, that would be based)
Little steps are steps nonetheless, things I'd like to see (even if they're unlikely):
Lastly, things I don't want to see:
It'd be rather based if they had 6-B with lightning speeds for Madara and Aizen ngl
Albeit, if they're sticking with Gremmy's meteor/Wandenreich for Aizen, they could have Madara AP stomp if they give him the 5-A tree and Hag calcs.
Not a high bar for them to beat with Naruto vs Ichigo, considering they entirely misrepresented his form's design, I'll conisder it a W if they do the following 3 things:
1) Have decent scaling for Aizen (aka give a proper scale as opposed to "hand waving" Ichigo's scaling to Yhwach, mention how he got stronger, talk about his back scaling from God Yhwach, etc)
2) Use the proper character models, don't throw around FKT Aizen using Muken Aizen's stats (throwback to original Bankai Ichigo fit with the True Bankai, super cringe)
3) Reference the canonicity of CFYOW in some capacity (ie they should mention how Aizen > Res Hikone > damn near the entire living verse, that would be based)
Little steps are steps nonetheless, things I'd like to see (even if they're unlikely):
- Scaling the God Tiers to the plethora of multi-realm busting statements from Yhwach (even if they conclude the realms are planets scale them to the bajillion statements lol)
- FTL Aizen that isn't accompanied by the "well he's FTL if we wank multipliers" (numerous ways of getting Muken Aizen to FTL reasonably)
- Proper hax representation for Aizen (if they say KS is equivalent to basic genjutsu I'll cry inside)
Lastly, things I don't want to see:
- Any God Tree calcs (I've yet to see a good one although if they shit out a really good proper calc that'd be a W)
- Madara AP stomp/speed blitz
- Any Wandenreich calcs (While the Tree calcs suck because there's no way to accurately calc it, the Wandenreich calcs suck because it relies on too many variables, anywhere from like High 6-A, maybe lower, up to the top end of tier 5, maybe higher)
It'd be rather based if they had 6-B with lightning speeds for Madara and Aizen ngl
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I agree, we should downgrade all tier 7 ratings
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1- yeah because Son Goku from saiyan saga (5-C) doesnt upscales to Piccolo Relativistic+ feat right? And goku kaioken x2 doesnt even already reaches FTL right
2-What
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Sowwy, I was still 2 pages back, I am not fast enough to keep with everyone
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no escape, we are getting forms vs forms. the audience would complain otherwise afiak
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Sowwy, I was still 2 pages back, I am not fast enough to keep with everyone
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I mean base Aizen vs base Madara, I'll take the W, Aizen farts and Madara dies.
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Aizen just stands there menacingly with drip
Madara becomes not alive because he ain't got that drip
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incredible research: naruto/ichigo dont scale to their main enemy, ichigo hollofication is not a multiplier (even tho he goes from being stomped to = or above when he uses it), basically not scaling ichigo after arrancar arc, using the ulquiorra lanza as the strongest thing even tho the aizen attack is stated above it, how his full true power is bellow mugetsu etc.
super good research
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Lol wanker get out of here
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I was just saying how authors can intend for certain characters to be a certian speed despite them having feats above said speed. DB characters have had LS feats since roshi blowing up the moon and in dbs goku has a mftl feat in his normal ssj god form. So no way should they be surprised dsypo is ftl. I guess that just means the author just intents form them to relativistic to LS.
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You understand that there isn't actually a term higher than FTL?
There is here in the debating community, but an author doesn't use things like "FTL+", "MFTL" or "MFTL+", they just use FTL to describe literally anything beyond lightspeed.
So Dyspo being described as beyond lightspeed could literally make him trillions of times lightspeed and it wouldn't contradict anything the statement says.
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This ^
there is no term higher than FTL in real life, so, FTL is like, WOOW, SOO FAST!!!qw@##@Q3WER2Q3R12Q34
it would just be like, baseline FTL if the verse didnt had others feats, but DB is a case where even mid tiers in ToP scales to MFTL at low ball
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This will be the sad reality.
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Muken Aizen will be given all the God Aizen forms and a fake Bankai before Madara kills him or seals without us knowing the Bankai’s power because we don’t know what it doesn’t.
The last part is acceptance. Denial has been forevermore. Madara will always be stronger than Aizen as everyone else sees it. :/
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super outdated, pre research current research team, old rules, research changes over time
