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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Arc7Kuroi said:
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Arc7Kuroi said:
She wasnā€™t, and reiterating a false correlation fallacy doesnā€™t make it magically correct. The only thing that swapped for Shutara was being bound in cloth.
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That part is questionable as well. Senjumaru is just more resilient and likely more resistant to poison type stuff being the predecessor of mayuri.

Uryu scales, still had to dodge all of shutara's attack and needed hax to break free from bankai cloths.
Arc7Kuroi said:
Theyā€™re not distinct, youā€™re still mistaking corrrelation for causation. Funny enough too, Gremmyā€™s feat might not be an outlier anymore depending on what cour 4 does. But the outlier argument for Renji sucks.
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They are clearly distinct. May be you should rewatch the episodes so that you can notice red eyes and mimihagi marks.

I've seen outlier arguments for gremmy. Those arguments suck as well. But I've seen people being happy with this like tf
 
Adam1396 said:
That part is questionable as well. Senjumaru is just more resilient and likely more resistant to poison type stuff being the predecessor of mayuri.

Uryu scales, still had to dodge all of shutara's attack and needed hax to break free from bankai cloths.
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That he does lol

Adam1396 said:
They are clearly distinct. May be you should rewatch the episodes so that you can notice red eyes and mimihagi marks.
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Correlation =/= causation.

Adam1396 said:
I've seen outlier arguments for gremmy. Those arguments suck as well. But I've seen people being happy with this like tf
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Well maybe Renji will open the door for consistency that the feat so desperately needed.
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
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I can't with you. I genuinely can not believe this madness. ICHIGO BEAT YHWACH'S ASS, if Uryu didn't scale within a millionth to him, he would be toast. Let's see where Ichigo said "I nerfed myself to captain level" ah yes, it's in the novel of INFH, short for It Never F**king Happened. Askin's hax only scales to have hurt Ichigo, his strength scales to jack shit. He had to use an unconventional mean to bypass Ichigo's resistance rather than use his usual special. Fights and damage is how we scale shit, if this didn't matter, how the hell would we get anywhere? We wouldn't.
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It's the other way. Everything suggests ichigo was extremely in nerfed state. Ichigo doesnā€™t have to say s***. He was visibly confused the entire time.
Of course that's how we scale. But we can not just scale vased on this. We need to take narrative and lot other stuffs into account.
Now please don't claim nanao scales to lillie barro cause he damaged him, that's the only thing left coming out of your mouth.
ReaperAndBlues said:
Again, NOTHING implies or states that Ichigo nerfed himself to such a ridculous level as to not hurt Uryu. There's a word to describe this claim: horseshit. Uryu may downscale from Ichigo due to mental nerfs, but he still scales, end of story.

Apologizes for my brashness but I'm completely tired of this utter nonsense.
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It's fine. We don't always have to be chitty chatty.
No it should not. Mental stat is very imporntant in fight. It can nerf or amp someone beyond their tier. Multiplier can not explain these things.
Look at ginjo for example.


Anyway. Is it only me or somebody else also think ichigo emitting visible reatsu is his actual true shikai form. No nerf, just a stable mind.
 
Adam1396 said:
It's the other way. Everything suggests ichigo was extremely in nerfed state. Ichigo doesnā€™t have to say s***. He was visibly confused the entire time.
Of course that's how we scale. But we can not just scale vased on this. We need to take narrative and lot other stuffs into account.
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None of this justifies placing Uryu to such an immense level below Ichigo, though. The shit involving his awakening with Yhwach clearly affected his strength moving forward and denial of this is factually believing headcanon. Arc explained this 50 million times. YOU have the onus to prove Ichigo would fall to such a level to not kill him and prove that Uryu's power doesn't match him in any capacity whatsoever to disprove him only downscaling.
Adam1396 said:
Now please don't claim nanao scales to lillie barro cause he damaged him, that's the only thing left coming out of your mouth.
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False equivalence fallacy, and a straw man. The two situations are not similar whatsoever.
Adam1396 said:
It's fine. We don't always have to be chitty chatty.
No it should not. Mental stat is very imporntant in fight. It can nerf or amp someone beyond their tier. Multiplier can not explain these things.
Look at ginjo for example.
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Mentality is important, but unless stated directly, it doesn't nerf you to such an extent that a mosquito can send you flying. Some gaps just cannot be lessened. There is not a single pillar of reasonable logic to backup your arguments, this is complete headcanon.

I'm going to bed now before I start geeking.
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
None of this justifies placing Uryu to such an immense level below Ichigo, though. The shit involving his awakening with Yhwach clearly affected his strength moving forward and denial of this is factually believing headcanon. Arc explained this 50 million times. YOU have the onus to prove Ichigo would fall to such a level to not kill him and prove that Uryu's power doesn't match him in any capacity whatsoever to disprove him only downscaling.
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I have explained it more than 50 million times off guarded character can be taken down by character far below their tier. With emotional boost they can also rise to different tier as well.

Oh yes, I'm not denying his amp. Just that it was temporary. Which is why red eyes and mimihagi mark do not appear in later form.
You are just being ignorant about important details.
ReaperAndBlues said:
False equivalence fallacy. The two situations are not similar whatsoever.

Mentality is important, but unless stated directly, it doesn't nerf you to such an extent that a mosquito can send you flying. Some gaps just cannot be lessened. There is not a single pillar of reasonable logic to backup your arguments, this is complete headcanon.

I'm going to bed now before I start geeking.
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You should not even bring the word situation here if you are just going by fights, damages so scale.
Ichigo doesnā€™t need to verbally state, oh I'm so confused. I'm in nerfed state. That's utterly immature take.

You have been geeking anyway. What's the point lmfao
 
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Adam1396 said:
I have explained it more than 50 million times off guarded character can be taken down by character far below their tier. With emotional boost they can also rise to different tier as well.
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Nobody has disputed this.
Adam1396 said:
Oh yes, I'm not denying his amp. Just that it was temporary. Which is why red eyes and mimihagi mark do not appear in later form.
You are just being ignorant about important details.
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Nobody is being ignorant, your premise is literally your assumption which also serves as your reasoning here, there's nothing here that in anyway disputes the take of Uryu is just stronger going forward.
 
Myxenete said:
Nobody is being ignorant, your premise is literally your assumption which also serves as your reasoning here, there's nothing here that in anyway disputes the take of Uryu is just stronger going forward.
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Everybody seems ignorant about these important details lol. It is not called assumption. May be you should give time into learning basic things.

Those marks clearly distinguishes his forms.
Nobody denying he got stronger. He just can not randomly tap into that or it was just a temporary buff from yhwach.
Meaning renji would not be the scaling to mimihagi marked red eyes uryu, so no correlation with senjumaru's feat.
 
This isn't going anywhere. I will just address these when renji's upgrade thread is brought up.

Rather we should talk about ishida's flashback. He was affected by auswahlen. But somehow his mother died instead.
Did he use antithesis back than somehow or that has something to do with his grandpa
 
Adam1396 said:
Can somebody tell how do I find telegram downloaded video's in file manager?
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Downloads folder and in Downloads you would see Telegram. the videos would be there
For PC, go to Downloads. You would see a folder called Telegram Desktop, the videos would be there
 
Adam1396 said:
I can prove the uryu renji and shutara fought are not same. It's hella easy.

It's not what you call "believe". These are clearly plot things and heroic response. Just like why he is not going around blizting em all.

Incorrect. Senjumaru was reversed to almost dead state where uryu was in. And we have seen it many times in such states characters are vulnerable or gets stronger with their life death situation thing.
Incorrect. Mimihagi and red eyes makes it very explicit.

No it actually seems like it's you who is trying to fill some agenda.
As I have addressed before. Both of uryu's forms are distinguishably different. So this scaling chain is incorrect.

Now what funnier is, let's assume this scaling is real. This s**t is an actual outlier compared to gremmy outlier.
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If you think it would mess with scaling, no it won't.

Stronger characters would just upscale from Renji.
 
Excellence616 said:
Downloads folder and in Downloads you would see Telegram. the videos would be there
For PC, go to Downloads. You would see a folder called Telegram Desktop, the videos would be there
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This doesnā€™t work anymore.
I have no folder in download folder.
Device: redmi note 13
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
No, at least not rn. We have multitudes of evidence suggesting that healing grave injuries doesnā€™t fully restore your spirit energy. Plus thereā€™s the unresolved point of if Renji recovered from getting his reishi stolen by Uryu. For the time being at least, we have more reason to believe Renji isnā€™t at full power. Cour 4 could change that lol but for now no
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Wasnā€™t Hashi better at healing than Orihime? I thought that was an Orihime only thing? Yes, Renji got his reishi recovered from Uryu. It was claimed that he wouldnā€™t be able to use Shikai or Bankai but he did used Shikai against Gerard.

Gerard goal from the beginning was to activate ā€œMiracleā€ so any damaged caused by Renji could be said to be Gerardā€™s plan. Renji doesnā€™t scale.
 
Bleach original manga content left can at least covered seven episodes. Half the season is going to be new content.
 
I was looking more closely at Ichigo vs Uryu round 2 around the part after Uryu read Soken's journal and Uryu apparently made a reishi shield. Perhaps this is some kind of parallelism to Jugram's Freund Scheild, or just a normal energy shield? Maybe it's the former and like it also is intertwined with The Antithesis
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
Where was this stated?
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Klub Outside; here's the quote.



Q328.
2022.05.09

I was always watching out for this with bated breath, but I wonder if the reason Rangikuā€™s breasts donā€™t spill out from her Shihakushō is because sheā€™s holding them in place with Reiatsu? Did she actually have a nip slip once where nobody was watching? Iā€™m curious if the reason why her chest is so widely exposed is because they cause her pain or perhaps itā€™s a ā€˜freebieā€™ for others. I love how sexy her chest is.

A328.
I was drawing her with the assumption that she would affix double sided tape to her chest, but I like the idea of her holding them in place with Reiatsu better. Maybe I should use it.
 
ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn said:
Klub Outside; here's the quote.



Q328.
2022.05.09

I was always watching out for this with bated breath, but I wonder if the reason Rangikuā€™s breasts donā€™t spill out from her Shihakushō is because sheā€™s holding them in place with Reiatsu? Did she actually have a nip slip once where nobody was watching? Iā€™m curious if the reason why her chest is so widely exposed is because they cause her pain or perhaps itā€™s a ā€˜freebieā€™ for others. I love how sexy her chest is.

A328.
I was drawing her with the assumption that she would affix double sided tape to her chest, but I like the idea of her holding them in place with Reiatsu better. Maybe I should use it.
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She should be a new Squad 0 member for discovering boob sealing kido
 
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