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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Zanpakuto Rebellion arc is secondary canon at the end of the day. Meaning that primary canon material like the databooks, manga, novels, aka everything Kubo explicitly worked on supercedes it when it comes to any contradictions. So no Raven, Soi Fon is not faster than Aizen since primary canon material says otherwise. Take your dog water scaling copium elsewhere, before you get packed up like you did in the Unohana thread.
 
If we also go off of CFYOW, Hikone ran circles around Yoruichi and it was stated that only Kenny, Aizen, and Ichigo can beat them.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
No it wasn’t he turned KS off. Either way the databooks just state he’s faster.
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No. He said "when did you think I wasn't using ks" he was using it entire time he only them choose to exploit them with it he never turned it off. That's why he talked about openings because they were sitting ducks under KS.

And no they don't
 
Aizen would never turn off ks against them as it's been his biggest advantage. That's why he told ichigo about not showing him in the eos
 
Aizen undoes KS and it's revealed that he's down by two random Shinigami, Shinji asks "since when" and then Aizen drops the hard bar, before cross map blitzing Soi Fon. His explanation is in reference to Toshiro stabbing Momo thinking it's Aizen while under KS, he's not using KS in this moment since he explicitly undoes it.

Aizen also keeps pace with Yamamoto, who's stated to have the best of the 4 Shinigami combat arts. One of the Shinigami combat arts is Hoho, which is the combat art dedicated to speed and agility. So, Aizen having any relativity to Yamamoto at all just makes him superior in all stats to Soi Fon.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Aizen undoes KS and it's revealed that he's down by two random Shinigami, Shinji asks "since when" and then Aizen drops the hard bar, before cross map blitzing Soi Fon. His explanation is in reference to Toshiro stabbing Momo thinking it's Aizen while under KS, he's not using KS in this moment since he explicitly undoes it.
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Why do you think the color scheme in the anime changed during that moment it was showing how helpless they are against KS. You don't need to undo it to show momo fake restriction he controls what they see. He just stopped using ks for their perception of Momo only. They are still under it.
Arc7Kuroi said:
Aizen also keeps pace with Yamamoto, who's stated to have the best of the 4 Shinigami combat arts. One of the Shinigami combat arts is Hoho, which is the combat art dedicated to speed and agility. So, Aizen having any relativity to Yamamoto at all just makes him superior in all stats to Soi Fon.
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Bro I can't read that and That just means overall based on what you typed. And I scale Yoruichi n soi fon speed above yama
 
Twisted_Little_Raven said:
Why do you think the color scheme in the anime changed during that moment it was showing how helpless they are against KS. You don't need to undo it to show momo fake restriction he controls what they see. He just stopped using ks for their perception of Momo only. They are still under it.
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The anime ain't the canon material for the FKT battles.

Twisted_Little_Raven said:
Bro I can't read that and That just means overall based on what you typed. And I scale Yoruichi n soi fon speed above yama
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最強の斬魄刀を有するだけでなく、“新拳走鬼”の全てで最強の名をほしいままにする元を警戒し、対策を施した
Not only possessing the strongest Zanpakuto, but Genryusai's title of the strongest in all the Shinigami combat arts warrants caution, countermeasures were applied

Hoho: high speed fighting

It doesn't mean overall whatsoever, he's the best in all 4 combat arts, so he's the best in Hoho, or high speed combat, aka his speed is better than Soi Fon's. You have no argument for scaling Yoruichi and Soi Fon above Yama.
 
People rarely seem to realize no-chant Kido at that level is insane. Also, the fact that he can do 99 too like that.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
The anime ain't the canon material for the FKT battles.
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Considering I brought up color and your response is anime ain't the canon. Implying manga.. see the problem here?
Arc7Kuroi said:
最強の斬魄刀を有するだけでなく、“新拳走鬼”の全てで最強の名をほしいままにする元を警戒し、対策を施した
Not only possessing the strongest Zanpakuto, but Genryusai's title of the strongest in all the Shinigami combat arts warrants caution, countermeasures were applied

Hoho: high speed fighting

It doesn't mean overall whatsoever, he's the best in all 4 combat arts, so he's the best in Hoho, or high speed combat, aka his speed is better than Soi Fon's. You have no argument for scaling Yoruichi and Soi Fon above Yama.
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I don't remember Aizen clashing with Yama. I remember Aizen stabbing him but pretty sure just a tactic by Yama to counter ks
 
Twisted_Little_Raven said:
Considering I brought up color and your response is anime ain't the canon. Implying manga.. see the problem here?
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No I don't. I already established lesser canons don't take precedence over the primary canon. So, unless you provide an argument for why the anime is the better canon, your claim is void.

Twisted_Little_Raven said:
I don't remember Aizen clashing with Yama. I remember Aizen stabbing him but pretty sure just a tactic by Yama to counter ks
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Reread the fight ig. Aizen is capable of avoiding attacks from Yama.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
No I don't. I already established lesser canons don't take precedence over the primary canon. So, unless you provide an argument for why the anime is the better canon, your claim is void.


Reread the fight ig. Aizen is capable of avoiding attacks from Yama.
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And yet, Bazz b reacted to him at point blank
 
But idc y'all dunno how scale bleach but I understand y'all don't think there's retcons so it's understandable. All of y'all just on a Byakuya and Unohana hate train
 
Twisted_Little_Raven said:
And yet, Bazz b reacted to him at point blank
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Not really point blank, but in the anime the cut out the part where it's stated he used his Schrift to lessen Yama's flame damage. So, you can't really make that claim given the current canon. Or Bazz just has higher reaction speeds and that's not contradictory.

Twisted_Little_Raven said:
But idc y'all dunno how scale bleach but I understand y'all don't think there's retcons so it's understandable. All of y'all just on a Byakuya and Unohana hate train
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You're a blind fool if you think so. Byakuya is perhaps the strongest High 6-A in terms of stats in the verse rn and Unohana is getting a 5-C upgrade when my next TYBW AP revision thread drops. Us not agreeing with like beyond Yama level Unohana or beyond Aizen level Byakuya doesn't make us on a hate train, it's called rational thought.
 
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