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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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If someone disagrees they gotta give proper reason. What would be your response if somebody said hisagi's bankai > ichibei's bankai
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They did give proper reasons in the thread, you're just in denial and refuse to accept other people can disagree with you. You not accepting their reasoning doesn't mean they didn't provide reasoning.
ReaperAndBlues
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Adam, if you're opponents are stonewalling you, you aren't making a case for proving them wrong with behavior like this. Personally, I don't gaf about the thread because I forgot about it a long time ago.
Arcker123
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It's entirely a you problem if you can't convince people this is false. You can't just report them for this. Just become a better debater.
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You can't report someone for disagreeing with you. No one's being ridiculous like you're claiming. End of story
ReaperAndBlues
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If only Guac was here, then it'd be a real JJK jumping
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if someone have enough reason to disagree you, you should accept that, not just refuse it
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If you think ichibei's zankpakuto not having reatsu doesn’t imply anything, having some form of reio essence involved in the resistance I have nothing to prove. I don’t feel like it.
Same applies to stupid takes like hisagi's bankai > ichibei's bankai
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If you think ichibei's zankpakuto not having reatsu doesn’t imply anything, having some form of reio essence involved in the resistance I have nothing to prove. I don’t feel like it.
Same applies to stupid takes like hisagi's bankai > ichibei's bankai
ReaperAndBlues
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Did you really just, post twice? Also, that's some S tier strawmanning
Arcker123
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Shunsui Vs Blackbeard
A post RC world... Hopefully this can be fair https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Marshall_D._Teach_(Blackbeard)#cite_ref-2 https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Shunsui_Ky%C5%8Draku TYBW Shunsui vs Yonko BB (4.4 Petatons vs 18 Petatons. Shunsui can use shikai to Amp to 445 Petatons) Speed = SBA...
ReaperAndBlues
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Haki ggs vs Reiatsu ggs, shit boutta get toxic quick.
Guacamolefletcher
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I would say they're spitting facts, because Ichibei's bankai likely isn't Reio level while Hisagi's bankai can affect people at Hikone's level.
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Chair-sama Aizen clears, period.
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While seating
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It's not they it's you
Hisagi's bankai gets nameless. It even loses the chance of being a chump of metal.
Guacamolefletcher
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I got a topic for ya'll:
Lets say that Ichigo gets some type of controlled FH form, and is off fighting base Aizen elsewhere, leaving Gin and Tosen to fight the Gotei 13 in the Karakura town war. Could the Gotei 13 (- Yamamoto and Unohana, since he'd already be out and Unohana is a cheat IG. Also no Bleach Sannin members because they'd be cheat picks) beat Gin and Tosen? Discuss.
Lets say that Ichigo gets some type of controlled FH form, and is off fighting base Aizen elsewhere, leaving Gin and Tosen to fight the Gotei 13 in the Karakura town war. Could the Gotei 13 (- Yamamoto and Unohana, since he'd already be out and Unohana is a cheat IG. Also no Bleach Sannin members because they'd be cheat picks) beat Gin and Tosen? Discuss.
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Question,will Gin be watching Tosen's back to ensure his Canon fate does not happen?
Cause otherwise Gin might get dogpiled (by a large amount of people most of which are weaker than him so they don't really matter).
Shinji would be their best answer in terms of actually fighting him head but Buto Renjin should take him down unless he actually uses his Mask.
I guess Shikai Shunsui might not go down instantly unless he gets slammed with Buto Renjin????
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Pretty certain Guac excluded Yama/Unohana/Bleach sannin?
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Been so long since I read that arc. Who's the full cast fighting them?
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Can Mimihagi be used for combat purposes? If so, Ukitake might slam.
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You say this as if Wonderweiss isn't the goat
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It's part of the Bleach fan lifecycle that at some point you become unable to read.
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This is true. One time, I was trying to read Bleach, but it was 2 AM and I fell asleep instead.
Guacamolefletcher
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Yamamoto is explicitly out, click the spoiler
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I'd personally say that if Shunsui doesn't use his bankai, they lose. Not to like overrate Shunsui's abilities or whatever, but I do think that if he pulls it off in time, it's like a domain expansion basically, and they don't have the stats to power through it.
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What of Kenpachi?
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Stuck fighting the strongest Espada in Hueco mundo with Byakuya.
I actually a combination of Hollow Mask Shinji/Bankai Komamura might be able to take down hollow mask Tosen(and if he goes into Res he might beat them but would get sneaked by Hisagi anyway.)
Gin probably Buto Renjin Komamura from a safe distance and then deal with Shinji but Shunsui should be able to just Bankai him.
Everyone else is just cannon fodder/distractions that help the win conditions get the chance to strike.
The FKT Gotei/Vizards should win but they would probably take heavy losses.
I do agree that Shunsui's Bankai is kinda needed,since while they do have the resources to take down 1 of them,without Shunsui's Bankai they can't deal with the remaining one.
Guacamolefletcher
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Lol, forgot Kenpachi. I didn't say if Byakuya and Kenpachi are there for the hypothetical. I guess Kenpachi definitely adapts in time lol.
Kenpachi 100% has greater AP than Butorenjin, no doubt. He dealt more damage than a masked Black Getsuga to Yammy. Not to be overly ambitious with damage scaling, but I'd find it highly doubtful if he didn't based on the huge chunk he took out of Yammy.
As for Kenpachi vs Gin, I think Kenpachi can probably adapt to it in time, if he doesn't get taken out in one shot. He probably wouldn't get one shot, but a well placed one could, like maybe to the head or something, IDK.
Hollow Shinji is enough for Tosen. Tosen is ****** if he fights Shinji, given how Shinji dodged a full strike from Tosen, and they both basically have the same amp on top of that.
Hollow Shinji definitely gotta be fast enough to deal with Gin. He might unironically be the strongest in the Karakura town war, if you exclude Aizen, Yamamoto, and Unohana (OFC not counting the Sannin, since they only show up in the Deicide arc).
I guess that's my hot take, lol. Shinji underrated fr.
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Worst case scenario Kenpachi can just throw a Ryoudan and Gin turns into paste.
Guacamolefletcher
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The issue for Kenpachi is speed.
