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In-character, takes place where they normaly reside
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Azatoth vs Ultimate Gods
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Azathoth wins because he's canonically superior
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Azy is omnipotent above the outer gods who are above the ultimate gods
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And he is canoncally lulled into sleep by them
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because they canonically incpacitate azatoth.
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No.DMB 1 said:
because he is 100% in-character as the OP says
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The Outer Gods and The Ultimate Gods are the one thing IIRC.Setsuna tenma said:
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Move this to Fun and Games.
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The Ultimate Gods would beat Demonbane Azathoth probably.
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Outer gods usually means Nya, Yog and shub who are above the infinite hierarchy of ultimate gods.Jockey-1337 said:
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Nah. They all are outer gods.
As for the other azatoth, pretty sure nearly all ultimate gods are far higher in 1-A
As for the other azatoth, pretty sure nearly all ultimate gods are far higher in 1-A
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They are outer gods, but when people say "Outer gods" They are usually talking about shub, nya and Yogg, who are above the infinite hierarchy of ultimate gods........Ricsi-viragosi said:
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That's not how it works.Ricsi-viragosi said:
Canonically, nothing is actually happening, because things happening at all is an illusion.
"Time, the waves went on, is motionless, and without beginning or end. That it has motion, and is the cause of change, is an illusion. Indeed, it is itself really an illusion, for except to the narrow sight of beings in limited dimensions there are no such things as past, present, and future. Men think of time only because of what they call change, yet that too is illusion. All that was, and is, and is to be, exists simultaneously.
These revelations came with a godlike solemnity which left Carter unable to doubt. Even though they lay almost beyond his comprehension, he felt that they must be true in the light of that final cosmic reality which belies all local perspectives and narrow partial views; and he was familiar enough with profound speculations to be free from the bondage of local and partial conceptions. Had his whole quest not been based upon a faith in the unreality of the local and partial?
After an impressive pause the waves continued, saying that what the denizens of few-dimensioned zones call change is merely a function of their consciousness, which views the external world from various cosmic angles. As the shapes produced by the cutting of a cone seem to vary with the angles of cutting—being circle, ellipse, parabola, or hyperbola according to that angle, yet without any change in the cone itself—so do the local aspects of an unchanged and endless reality seem to change with the cosmic angle of regarding. To this variety of angles of consciousness the feeble beings of the inner worlds are slaves, since with rare exceptions they cannot learn to control them. Only a few students of forbidden things have gained inklings of this control, and have thereby conquered time and change. But the entities outside the Gates command all angles, and view the myriad parts of the cosmos in terms of fragmentary, change-involving perspective, or of the changeless totality beyond perspective, in accordance with their will."
"Azathoth being lulled into a calm, 'sleeping' state" is an illusion, just as Yog speaking with Carter is an illusion. All things are always "happening" simultaneously and eternally, because everything is actually a changeless totality.
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