Atropos vs Chronoa [0-1-6] (God of War vs Dragon Ball Heroes)

[Shiroiyo]

SBA.
Speed is equalized.
Chronoa is in her Brainwashed Key.


Atropos:
Chronoa: Shar122.
Incon: BEASTHEART8800, Planck69, Ottavio_Merluzzo, Vietthai96, Killerdrone12, CryoTheMayo.

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Leaning towards Chrona because time power is pretty OP, but I know almost nothing about heroes. I also don't think the verse has Concept hax yet (could be wrong) which is a major problem as pretty much everyone in God of War has it.

 

[Vietthai96]

Bro.........

 

[Shar122]

Leaning towards Chrona because time power is pretty OP, but I know almost nothing about heroes. I also don't think the verse has Concept hax yet (could be wrong) which is a major problem as pretty much everyone in God of War has it.

And GoW doesn't have any answer to Info 2 ee.. So Chronoa FRA

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Sounds like incon then tbh

 

[Killerdrone123]

Brainwashed chronoa first move was time freeze also she has one layer of time power so unless atropos has layered time manip resistance she is getting freezed and after that chronoa could use ee or seal her in dark labyrinth not to mention chronoa could simply one shot via ap since she scales to infinite low 1c timelines

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Atropos time powers and resistance are definitely far above baseline as she's got two or three layers i believe.

And any attack that Atropos lands will deal CM 1 by default.

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

Are transformations restricted btw? Otherwise Chronoa's gonna transform into her Berserk/Time Power Unleashed state if her time stop doesn't work and this might become a speedblitz via multipliers

 

[Shar122]

Atropos time powers and resistance are definitely far above baseline as she's got two or three layers i believe.

And any attack that Atropos lands will deal CM 1 by default.

Then Atropos's cooked, Chronoa has 7 Layers of Time power.. So..

 

[Vietthai96]

Then Atropos's cooked, Chronoa has 7 Layers of Time power.. So..

No, that Awakened Keysword, SSB:UT Goku, True Form Tokitoki, TPU Demigra

Brainwashed Chronoa have 2 layers, if she turn into her Brainwashed Berserk form she get 3 layers

 

[Shar122]

No, that Awakened Keysword, SSB:UT Goku, True Form Tokitoki, TPU Demigra

Brainwashed Chronoa have 2 layers, if she turn into her Brainwashed Berserk form she get 3 layers

Oh I see.. Well I just thought that the layered stuff applies generally to overall Time power stuff...but I was mistaken, but anyways Atropos gets squashed, Chronoa is too powerful for Atropos..

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Oh I see.. Well I just thought that the layered stuff applies generally to overall Time power stuff...but I was mistaken, but anyways Atropos gets squashed, Chronoa is too powerful for Atropos..

AP isn't enough to to end this. Remember, Atropos can destroy souls, which are a type 1 concept in God of War, on literally any single attack.

Chronoa has no resistance to that at all, nor does anyone in the verse currently, so I wouldn't count Atropos out just yet

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

Are transformations restricted btw? Otherwise Chronoa's gonna transform into her Berserk/Time Power Unleashed state if her time stop doesn't work and this might become a speedblitz via multipliers

Soooooo about this? I think this needs to be clarified

 

[Shiroiyo]

Transformations aren't restricted.

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

Transformations aren't restricted.

Well in that case, this might become a speedblitz if Chronoa transforms into her Time Power Unleashed/Berserk state which would at least scale to SS4/SSB levels if not even higher (Unless Atropos has speed multipliers of her own of course)

 

[ShionAH]

Btw that passive cm soul thing was removed, not all attacks in Gow do that CM stuff. It has to be activated prior to the attacks

 

[Planck69]

Btw that passive cm soul thing was removed, not all attacks in Gow do that CM stuff. It has to be activated prior to the attacks

The Power of the Fates specifically can do that, though. It applies in Atropos' case to her energy attacks.

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Btw that passive cm soul thing was removed, not all attacks in Gow do that CM stuff. It has to be activated prior to the attacks

And that only affects demigod characters. Not the tier 1's.

And that's getting revised soon I believe

 

[Planck69]

Btw, maybe I missed it but wouldn't fate hax work on Chronoa?

Edit: Wait, nvm. Just saw the Time Scroll page.

Yeah, this comes down to Atropos nailing Chronoa with a soul/concept attack versus the latter amping herself to blitz + info Type 2.

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

Sooooo incon then ig?

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

I'll go incon I guess

 

[Planck69]

Incon makes sense, yeah.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Incon FRA

 

[TheGreatBanana]

Hmm, I looked into Atropos's profile and I couldn't see anything about layers? Has I been accepted but not put into the profiles? If so, I'll just assume that she doesn't have those layers. Which really means Chronoa freezes time and one shots her.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Hmm, I looked into Atropos's profile and I couldn't see anything about layers? Has I been accepted but not put into the profiles? If so, I'll just assume that she doesn't have those layers. Which really means Chronoa freezes time and one shots her.

Layers don't matter much here when on one side all magic is CM1 and on the other side there are info 2 things. GOW guys can't resist because they don't have resistance to info 2 and DBH guys can't resist because of CM1, aspects different fundamentals without any hierarchy between them.

 

[TheGreatBanana]

Layers don't matter much here when on one side all magic is CM1 and on the other side there are info 2 things. GOW guys can't resist because they don't have resistance to info 2 and DBH guys can't resist because of CM1, aspects different fundamentals without any hierarchy between them.

I was merely talking about layers of Time Manipulation/residents, not Info/Cm.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

I was merely talking about layers of Time Manipulation/residents, not Info/Cm.

Dude, any manipulation of magic is CM1, i.e. Time hax CM1. There is no direct comparison between Time hax CM and Time Hax info as both are fundamentally different, so the layers don't matter.

This fight is basically whoever hits first.

 

[Ebihara]

incon fra

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Hmm, I looked into Atropos's profile and I couldn't see anything about layers? Has I been accepted but not put into the profiles? If so, I'll just assume that she doesn't have those layers. Which really means Chronoa freezes time and one shots her.

Well, The Amulet of the Fates > Norse time hax > The Amulet of Ouroboros > The Gem of Ouroboros.

The sisters can actually resist the Fates Amulet mid battle, and it requires Kratos to knock them down to use it effectively on them.

 

[TheGreatBanana]

Well, The Amulet of the Fates > Norse time hax > The Amulet of Ouroboros > The Gem of Ouroboros.

The sisters can actually resist the Fates Amulet mid battle, and it requires Kratos to knock them down to use it effectively on them.

Is that accepted? And why is anything superior to another?

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Yes it's accepted. The gem of ouroboros is weaker than the Amulet and the Fate Amulet is stronger than both and the time powers in Norse .

There's a statement on one of the menus from God of War: Ascension's multiplayer that states the first part, and the Fate Amulet scales above the gem because it's the fates power, and their hax scales above the entire verse currently except Kratos and the great evil and hope.

And it can even work on them (Albeit you have to knock them down)

The last part, Mimir says that if Odin had the Fates power, they'd be F U C K. E D. Meaning the fates power scale above all in the norse realm

 

[TheGreatBanana]

Yes it's accepted. The gem of ouroboros is weaker than the Amulet and the Fate Amulet is stronger than both and the time powers in Norse .

There's a statement on one of the menus from God of War: Ascension's multiplayer that states the first part, and the Fate Amulet scales above the gem because it's the fates power, and their hax scales above the entire verse currently except Kratos and the great evil and hope.

And it can even work on them (Albeit you have to knock them down)

The last part, Mimir says that if Odin had the Fates power, they'd be F U C K. E D. Meaning the fates power scale above all in the norse realm

Hmm I see, if it is accepted then sure

 

[Shar122]

AP isn't enough to to end this. Remember, Atropos can destroy souls, which are a type 1 concept in God of War, on literally any single attack.

Chronoa has no resistance to that at all, nor does anyone in the verse currently, so I wouldn't count Atropos out just yet

Chronoa has History and Info EE, which anyone from GoW.. Has no absolutely resistance to, even if Chronoa has no resistance to concept hax, she can just transform into Time power Unleashed/Berserk state and still blitzes Atropos, and I'm also pretty sure that Chronoa can passively reduce Atropos stamina to 1, stunning her via dimensional domain, or seal Atropos in the dark labyrinth, which is a frozen pocket space-time.. And likely go for the kill with info 2..so yeah I vote Chronoa FRA

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

So yeah..

Chronoa has History and Info EE, which anyone from GoW.. Has no absolutely resistance to, even if Chronoa has no resistance to concept hax, she can just transform into Time power Unleashed/Berserk state and still blitzes Atropos, and I'm also pretty sure that Chronoa can passively reduce Atropos stamina to 1, stunning her via dimensional domain, or seal Atropos in the dark labyrinth, which is a frozen pocket space-time.. And likely go for the kill with info 2..so yeah I vote Chronoa FRA

This sounds like incon then. GOW People don't resist Info stuff, DBH People don't resist Concept stuff. Stamina reduction is resisted, due to resisting the energy of tartarus, which has statistics reduction. Also, the Greek gods all have dimensional travel, and the fates can travel space-times, so I'm not sure on that last one

If you think Chronoa wins, that's ok, she's got her win conditions which I haven't disputed, but this fight comes down to whoever hits first. If she can transform then sure speedblitzes and oneshots

So I'll still say incon

 

[Shar122]

So yeah..

This sounds like incon then. GOW People don't resist Info stuff, DBH People don't resist Concept stuff. Stamina reduction is resisted, due to resisting the energy of tartarus, which has statistics reduction. Also, the Greek gods all have dimensional travel, and the fates can travel space-times, so I'm not sure on that last one

If you think Chronoa wins, that's ok, she's got her win conditions which I haven't disputed, but this fight comes down to whoever hits first. If she can transform then sure speedblitzes and oneshots

So I'll still say incon

Dimensional domain isn't just any statistics reduction tbh, it's passively draining your stamina to 1 instantaneously plus in the game, People who has resistance to statistics reduction.. Dimensional domain can STILL work PASSIVELY reduce their stamina to almost 0, and the dark labyrinth stuff, it's part of her ability, it's a frozen pocket space-time with her time freeze ability being activated on top of it.. And dimensional domain doesn't just reduce stamina, it also stun her opponent as well, while also make them unable to use their abilities or power.. With dimensional domain, dark labyrinth, time freeze, and info 2 EE, it's really a nasty combination, that'll put Atropos down for good.

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Dimensional domain isn't just any statistics reduction tbh, it's passively draining your stamina to 1 instantaneously plus in the game, People who has resistance to statistics reduction.. Dimensional domain can STILL work PASSIVELY reduce their stamina to almost 0,

The energy of tartarus resistance for Atropos is layered. As the elemental resistance comes from the champions of the gods, who's powers and resistances all come from the gods, as the warriors level up and get better armor (which is empowered by the gods) their resistances to the elements grow. And even the most powerful champions still are nowhere near Kratos, who the fates can affect, well, at least for a while.

And the Fates also scale above the magic of the nine realms which includes light elf magic which also has magic that passively drains all physical statistics. As well cursed Nifleheim mist

and the dark labyrinth stuff, it's part of her ability, it's a frozen pocket space-time with her time freeze ability being activated on top of it..

How many layers does chronoa have again? Because Atropos has about 3 layers of Time manipulation resistance. And she's perfectly capable of traveling across space-times and dimensions.

And dimensional domain doesn't just reduce stamina, it also stun her opponent as well, while also make them unable to use their abilities or power..

How many layers does this have? Because Atropos has layered resistance to all of those powers

and info 2 EE,

A very real win condition and not at all resisted by Atropos

 

[Vietthai96]

Well, currently DD is treated as stats reduction so ehh....

Anyway i vote incon

Just answer some questions anyway:

How many layers does chronoa have again? Because Atropos has about 3 layers of Time manipulation resistance. And she's perfectly capable of traveling across space-times and dimensions.

1. Chronoa have 1 layer, if transform into Berserk state she going to have 3.
2. Chronoa obviously can travel across time and space, dimensions, she can also sense peoples across so Atropos can travel isn't her problem. She sensed Demon God Demigra in the past and others in different timelines

How many layers does this have? Because Atropos has layered resistance to all of those powers

At best, it is 1 layer

 

[Killerdrone123]

Yeah voting incon fra

 

[CryoTheMayo]

From what I've seen the result appears to be incon so I'll vote incon.