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A general discussion thread to talk about Atlus' new IP. I really don't have much else to say...
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Atlus' Metaphor: ReFantazio Discussion Thread
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A general discussion thread to talk about Atlus' new IP. I really don't have much else to say...
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tier predictions? I'm banking on 3-A/Low 2-C cuz Atlus JRPG stuff
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I mean it'll probably be boosted higher if it shares some form of cosmology with Megami Tensei like Catherine. But yeah, it'll probably have some world ending threat at the very minimum.
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So the verse seems to already be 1-A from the demo maybe? The Player seems to be an actual canonical entity who lies beyond metaphor and sees it as a story or fiction.
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There very well could be shenanigans that upscales the cast to The Player at some point considering this is an Atlus JRPG and they love doing wacky stuff like that
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At bare mininum, Will and the gang, plus the final boss, will be somewhere around 3-A to Low 2-C. World-shttering magic is already confirmed to exist, if it's to mean the universe, so that's cool if we face it.
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Also yeah, the player character's name is Will, already canonized from the trailers and the game itself when switching to and from English to Japanese, to English.
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I'm like 22-23 hours in and heismay seems to be positively subsonic at least. Would lightning or light magics be considered the real deal?
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Yea I think this is just in MegaTen
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I think metaphor takes place after the Conception of a universe, being a reborn world
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there is nothing here that suggests that though, its just desvribing another world with more than one god. It doesn't mean its connected, it just means theres multiple gods in another world.
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idk one of the gods looks like mara and you literally go to the remains of shinjuku
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Holy ******* shit
I reached the part where the protagonist realizes his true self as the ideal and fantasy of the prince and shit was so peak
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HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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its so over
this is just a fun little thing they're doing. This is an anniversary project after all, so unless this is brought up in story, it shouldn't have any bearing.
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IMO this just contextualizes things especially with demons being conflated with the gods and old world when there were multiple gods. i find it hard to believe it's not an actual connection also considering the devil summoner archetype is basically a canonical power or archetype to use.
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Louis is literally just Lucifer with his archetype wtf
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I just finished the game and it was honestly peak. Might be one of my favorite Atlus games ever.
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Is this happened after the event of SMT V.
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If anything it's just its own world in MegaTen multiverse.
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Just like with Persona when it lost the Shin Megami Tensei moniker! Metaphor will lose the Refantazio moniker if it becomes the Third Pillar!
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Persona never had the "Shin Megami Tensei moniker," outside of localized subtitles. It was initially entitled Megami Ibunroku Persona. I'm not sure how future Metaphor sequels will be titled, but regardless of how it changes (or does not), it wouldn't be that much of an analogue to the Persona series, as the "Megami Ibunroku" title is used to specifically indicate Persona is part of the Megami Tensei franchise, whereas Metaphor Re:Fantazio's title doesn't tie it nominally to any other series.
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To the people that have finished the game, in the least spoilerly way possible, where does the end game scale?
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cannot divulge this information
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I'm getting gate kept in the thread I made 
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Is it because you do not have that information?
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Finished the game, I think nothing would get it to 1-A (except if you consider Almighty attacks somehow gets it to 1-A then sure, or maybe More is 1-A, idk). Else it's somewhere large city level, something like that (the Relics Neuras asked us to find would possibly get it to multicontinental to planetary).
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What feats do the relics have
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0, lore aura. Neuras stated that if he were to finished that thing, it can destroy the world itself (it's a weapon).
There are 0 reality warping related stuff (except for More's fake world and that's all).
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Shiva scaling (the verse seems to be in MegaTen), The actual real world stuff (which is archetypal world but no one really directly scales aside from the great seeker)
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I would say it's tops out at planetary at the very end. There's relics from neura's story that have the power to blow up the planet or well 'world' whatever that means.
But also in the final boss there's dialogue about the main bad guy being able to like recreate the world and wipe out entire tribes from existence. So presumably he would have the power to remake the planet.
Then we scale above that nebulously. If we scale of the demon summoner though, then we can summon beelzebub, Shiva, vishnu and that could get you to universal somewhere I'm pretty sure.
But also in the final boss there's dialogue about the main bad guy being able to like recreate the world and wipe out entire tribes from existence. So presumably he would have the power to remake the planet.
Then we scale above that nebulously. If we scale of the demon summoner though, then we can summon beelzebub, Shiva, vishnu and that could get you to universal somewhere I'm pretty sure.
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Planetary Metaphor is real.
(Would apply to anyone with archetypes, since all can equip the berserker class)
(Would apply to anyone with archetypes, since all can equip the berserker class)
