Asriel vs Dimentio Redux

[StrymULTRA]

Both got new abilities, so why not.

Asriel vs Chaos Heart Dimentio

Speed =

Goat God:

2-B Marx:

Incon:

 

[Arcker123]

What do they both start with?

 

[StrymULTRA]

What do they both start with?

Dimentio leads with Mind hax, while Asriel starts with Fire hax + thought based SAVE and LOAD spam

 

[Arcker123]

If dimentio leads with mindhax and asriel has no resistance, what can asriel do

 

[StrymULTRA]

If dimentio leads with mindhax and asriel has no resistance, what can asriel do

One Shot his SOUL with his magic, that includes Fire hax

 

[Arcker123]

why does that stop the mindhax though, is it instant

 

[StrymULTRA]

why does that stop the mindhax though, is it instant

Because is danmaku that instantly covers the battlefield.

Mind hax isn't even instantaneous as shown in 6:50

 

[Arcker123]

He just kinda snapped his fingers and mindhaxed luigi

 

[StrymULTRA]

He just kinda snapped his fingers and mindhaxed luigi

Which took some seconds to take effects

 

[Oleggator]

Wait, but isn't it comes after a time?
Dimentio by himself said he planted a seed to Luigi.
So, does he planted seed instantly or in some previous game moment?

 

[StrymULTRA]

does he planted seed instantly or in some previous game moment?

Seems instant as I see from his threads.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Doesn't asriel have passive paralysis shit? Or does he need to do something in order for it to activate?

 

[Arcker123]

if dimentio's mindhax is action based then rip

 

[StrymULTRA]

Doesn't asriel have passive paralysis shit? Or does he need to do something in order for it to activate?

He has that only in full power form

 

[Garchomp777]

Asriel can't even harm dimentio when he is 2D

 

[StrymULTRA]

Asriel can't even harm dimentio when he is 2D

I thought that the final warning was enough.

 

[Arcker123]

Asriel can't even harm dimentio when he is 2D

?

 

[Garchomp777]

?

?

 

[Arcker123]

?

Why is he 2D?

 

[Peppypony]

I thought there was a thread where people ended up agreeing that attacks in Undertale don’t one shot because they hit the soul?

Did that go through or not?

 

[Garchomp777]

Why is he 2D?

Because he can flip from 2D and 3D and vice versa, and is intangible even to dimensionless beings

 

[StrymULTRA]

Because he can flip from 2D and 3D and vice versa, and is intangible even to dimensionless beings

Not on the profile.

Also lol at "dimensionless beings"

 

[Garchomp777]

Not on the profile.

Also lol at "dimensionless beings"

That's what the flipping between realities ability is about actually. Its the same as Mario's

What's so funny about dimensionless beings?

 

[StrymULTRA]

That's what the flipping between realities ability is about actually. Its the same as Mario's

Make a CRT

What's so funny about dimensionless beings?

That's 1-A lmfao

 

[Garchomp777]

Make a CRT

That's 1-A lmfao

There's no need for a CRT, the ability is already there, its just not elaborated on. Its common knowledge, he used it in every fight.

 

[Peppypony]

Does being 0D count as dimensionless since you have zero dimensions whatsoever?

Also nobody answered my question about soul hax in Undertale.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Does being 0D count as dimensionless since you have zero dimensions whatsoever?

Technically, 0Ds already can't interact with anything, dimensionless would mean 1-A most technically

Also nobody answered my question about soul hax in Undertale.

I dunno that was well ngl.

 

[Peppypony]

But wouldn't it make sense to call both of them dimensionless because they both have no dimensions? But one difference is that 1-A means you're above the concept of dimensions while 0D means you're below them right?

With the thread though, if Asriel's attacks don't one shot then this has to be a stomp because he doesn't use any of his other hax till later on in the fight. At least I don't remember him doing that.

 

[Garchomp777]

But wouldn't it make sense to call both of them dimensionless because they both have no dimensions? But one difference is that 1-A means you're above the concept of dimensions while 0D means you're below them right?

With the thread though, if Asriel's attacks don't one shot then this has to be a stomp because he doesn't use any of his other hax till later on in the fight. At least I don't remember him doing that.

0D is a dot, dimensionless is without dimensions. It was flipside, the world between spatial dimensions (stated in Japanese version) that I was talking about and there's beings from there mario can be untouchable too with his flip, which should apply to dimentio since he uses the same ability and it has worked on flipside too. But i probably forgot something, so just pretending it isn't the case, he can still flip into 2D to just, avoid everything and erase asriel

And his mindhax too

 

[StrymULTRA]

He doesen't do that in character tho.

 

[Peppypony]

I thought it was Soulhax, didn’t he like capture many of the characters in Undertale and then hax them afterwards? It happened before the fight, did he try to use it against the player?

 

[StrymULTRA]

It happened before the fight, did he try to use it against the player?

No because in that case he misunderstood Frisk for Chara, who didn't want to kill but just make surrender, so, in short, he would do so against a stranger.

 

[Peppypony]

Well obviously he doesn’t know Dimentio so he would likely to use that here? How fast is it?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Well obviously he doesn’t know Dimentio so he would likely to use that here? How fast is it?

Few seconds if he can grab and immobilize, a thing he can do with passive paralysis inducement.

 

[Peppypony]

Few seconds if he can grab and immobilize, a thing he can do with passive paralysis inducement.

Grab with vines right? Also doesn’t paralysis take awhile for it to completely stop their movement?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Grab with vines right?

Only in Flowey key

Also doesn’t paralysis take awhile for it to completely stop their movement?

As Asriel trasformed, Frisk got paralyzed, meaning that is instantaneous.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Btw changed the OP due of the changes (I heavily disagree with the UT downgrade tho, but not the moment nor the time to do a CRT about it).

 

[Peppypony]

Only in Flowey key

As Asriel trasformed, Frisk got paralyzed, meaning that is instantaneous.

Oh yeah you’re right, but the player can still dodge the projectiles though? Does he start in that form during this fight?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Oh yeah you’re right, but the player can still dodge the projectiles though?

Ye, but that was overtime, so it's unknown how much would Dimentio take to break free.

 

[Peppypony]

Ye, but that was overtime, so it's unknown how much would Dimentio take to break free.

Are you taking about when the player becomes unable to move? Does that happen when he gets depressed and launches those fireballs or when he fires that massive unavoidable rainbow laser? I can’t remember.