Ashen One vs Ikki Kurogane.

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Ashen One's First Key.

Ikki at 8-A. No amps.

Speed Equalized.

Ashen One:

Ikki:

Incon:

 

[SpookyShadow]

Ashen is 8-B, Ikki is 8-A

Kinda stompy

 

[Sir_sun_man]

well ashen one kinda can't die and he has mind hax

 

[SpookyShadow]

Doesn't matter, speed is equal

 

[Sir_sun_man]

Doesn't matter, speed is equal

?

 

[SpookyShadow]

Ashen One's First Key.
Ikki at 8-A. No amps.

Speed Equalized.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

yeah and?

im not sure what you are empling

 

[Ionliosite]

Ikki one-shots even without amps.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Ikki can't permanently kill Ashen though.

 

[Slacjow]

well ashen one kinda can't die and he has mind hax

"Advanced pyromancy of Quelana, a daughter of the Witch of Izalith. Charms the enemy, making them a temporary ally. The living are lured by flame, and this tendency is elemental to the art of pyromancy."

Shit tier mindhax.

 

[Ionliosite]

Ikki can't permanently kill Ashen though.

He could be incaped with Phantom Form.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

he also has poison

plus ashen one might just win by outliving now i think about it

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

He could be incaped with Phantom Form.

Ashen can kill himself with a thought vis the Dark Sign

 

[Ionliosite]

Poison? The same thing that Ikki was being fed with during days before his match with Tohka?

 

[Ionliosite]

He could be incaped with Phantom Form.

Ashen can kill himself with a thought vis the Dark Sign

... Ashen can kill himself? How is that useful?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Ashen resists phantom form

 

[Sir_sun_man]

eh depends on posion since you know different poisons have different effects

for example you can become immune to snake poison but somthing like rat will still kill you

 

[Ionliosite]

Ashen resists phantom form

Resistance to Magic, Fire, Frost, Lightning, Dark, Mind, Soul, Toxin, Curse Manipulation, Petrification and Bleeding effects, Resistance to Statistics Reduction and Power Nullification via resisting Hollowing (Hollowing reduces even the mightiest warriors to dessicated corpses and the Darksign failed to completely suppress the Dark Soul)

I don't see resistance to Phantom Form there.

 

[Slacjow]

... Ashen can kill himself? How is that useful?

So he can revive himself but now not incapacitated.

He can't kill himself if he can't move though.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

what is phantom form exactly

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Phantom Form is willpower manip, which is a subset of mindhax, which Ashen resists

Pain also wont work because lolundeadstuff

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Phantom Form works on the mind which Ashen has resistance to via resisting Rapport.

 

[Schnee_One]

This should be Wolf.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

... Ashen can kill himself? How is that useful?

So he can revive himself but now not incapacitated.

He can't kill himself if he can't move though.

The Dark Sign only needs a thought.

 

[Ionliosite]

Phantom Form is willpower manip, which is a subset of mindhax, which Ashen resists

That was pre-retcon, it was retconned into pain manip.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

yeah then it woun't really work

not only is ashen one capable of resisting a high 4C curse that breaks your soul down untill you are a hollow via sheer ******* will power

he also resists mind manip of report

 

[Schnee_One]

That was pre-retcon, it was retconned into pain manip.

Wait we accept either version despite being retconned?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Phantom Form is willpower manip, which is a subset of mindhax, which Ashen resists

That was pre-retcon, it was retconned into pain manip.

Ashen laughs at feeling pain

Also, Ikki's profile still says willpower manip

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

That was pre-retcon, it was retconned into pain manip.

Then it's still worthless.

 

[Ionliosite]

That was pre-retcon, it was retconned into pain manip.

Wait we accept either version despite being retconned?

We only accepted the retconned version now iirc.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Ashen doesn't even feel pain.

 

[Slacjow]

When did Ashen One resist Rapport?And why is that even relevant?Rapport is one of the worst mindhax powers in fiction,it doesn't work against strong opponents,it works against only limited opponents in the game itself,I doubt it works even against comparable opponents and it lasts for only roughly 30 seconds gameplay wise.And the potency of the spell is very low,probably a couple of creatures at best.

The Dark Sign only needs a thought.

I am gonna need some info on that suicide thing.

 

[Ionliosite]

That was pre-retcon, it was retconned into pain manip.
Ashen laughs at feeling pain

Quoting Earl: Not even Ikki's resistance to pain is enough and he was pierced a hole through pretty much all non vital organs and every limb yet still got up.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

eh i don't know if a dried up corpse who is made of actual ash is even capable of feeling pain my guy

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

The thing is, undeads flat out doesnt feel pain, unless Phantom Form can hurt dead nerves

 

[Slacjow]

He feels pain but that probably won't be effective against him.

Why else do you think Ashen One screams when he dies,or when he gets hit?Just because he can?

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

He feels pain but that probably won't be effective against him.

Why else do you think Ashen One screams when he dies,or when he gets hit?Just because he can?

yes

 

[SpookyShadow]

Yet he gives no ***** when someone pierces through him like through butter

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I don't why people are saying Rapport won't work when Ikki literally doesn't have any Mindhax Resistance in this key.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

or beaing chewed on by a massive ******* beast