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Archie Super Sonic (Post-Genesis) is 11D? Tf?

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Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
Wait what? He literally just says "dimensional matrix". He doesn't mention anything about M-Theory or something similar.
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Ikr and people are assuming that makes him 11D.
 
yeah azzy is right if he mentioned M-theory then maybe 11D but he never mentioned that only a dimensional matrix so its unknown and too much speculation
 
I agree that this is far too speculative.
 
Extra-dimensional in said context is almost certainly used in the sci-fi jargon sense and not the scientific sense, considering the conversation is about alternate universes.

Even being generous and assuming they mean worlds with higher dimensions, any number higher than 4 isn't automatically 11.
 
Are their two threads currently going on about this topic, one should be closed.
 
@Kaltias

Im not asking for your speculation. "Extradimensional Worlds" is anything 5D and above, if the max was a 5th dimension then it would have been "Extradimensional world" instead of "Extradimensional worlds"
 
ShadowSoul123 said:
@Kaltias
Im not asking for your speculation. "Extradimensional Worlds" is anything 5D and above, if the max was a 5th dimension then it would have been "Extradimensional world" instead of "Extradimensional worlds"
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That's not how dimensions work.

The worlds with more than four dimensions would be "extradimensional". The dimensions themselves are not "worlds", unless you mean in the "alternate universe" sense, which is what you are arguing against.
 
@Azathoth

They reffered to as "worlds" in many different continuities. The alternate universes are always discussed in the scan.

Incorrect.

https://imgur.com/RSv4lWA

^She talks about Universes here, when she says "hopes of people and various dimensional worlds including yours"

She changed to a completely different topic when she talked about extra dimensional worlds.

Also, ExtraDimensions *can* be reffered to as worlds. The Chaos Force was believed to be the 5th dimension and yet it was a "world" in many ways. Hence that argument doesn't work
 
@Azathoth

Fair enough. But that doesn't change the fact that she said that were more than one extradimensional worlds, you've proven nothing other than the chaos force being not the dimension itself but a higherdimensional world.

Anyway, extradimensional equates to Complex Multiversal at a minimum
 
@Azathoth

Yes but there were more than one extradimensional worlds and since there is no way to tell how much there is, it equates to Complex Multiverse lvl
 
More than one extradimensional world only means more than one world is extradimensional, not that every one of those worlds includes more and more higher dimensions.
 
@Azathoth

No, it could be various extradimensional worlds some being 5D and some being higher. You have absolutely no way to prove what you just said and therefore it's an assumption, a baseless one at that.

Once again, according to the tiering system, complex multiversal is suitable
 
That's not how any of this works. The assumption is that, if we assume extradimensional to mean beyond four dimensions in this context, that there is now automatically more than the required five.
 
ShadowSoul123 said:
@Azathoth

No, it could be various extradimensional worlds some being 5D and some being higher. You have absolutely no way to prove what you just said and therefore it's an assumption, a baseless one at that.

Once again, according to the tiering system, complex multiversal is suitable
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Key word here is "could". We don't rate characters based on what they "could" be, we rate them based on what they have shown to be. Yes, it could be above 5D. But you have to prove it. We don't rate every single character able to manipulate a multiverse as "at least 2-C" just because the multiverse could be infinite. We don't rate conceptual characters as "at least" their tier just because they could embody their concept entirely instead of being bounded to their multiverse.
 
I agree with most of what Azzy has said. However I have one question for him.

In Archie apparently there already is a dimension above infinite 4-D worlds called "The Chaos Force" (which is where HIgh 2-A people comes from)

If there are extradimensional worlds above the rest of Archieverse, wouldn't that be 6-D?
 
@Azzy That makes sense then. Thanks.
 
This is terrible.

According to Sera, the pre-genesis wave multiverse is 5-dimensional and there is nothing above the Chaos Force. "Extra-dimensional" means absolutely nothing. Seriously, it doesn't. That can be 4-D for all we know. She also strongly stresses that in the post-genesis reality multiple multiverses exist (Mega-Man comes from his own multiverse and the Chaos Force is no longer a concept) but no character can be at this level even if it was 6-D. Super Sonic and Super Amor Mega Man struggled to restore the new multiverse to the old one because it was beyond even their power.
 
Okay. Thank you for the information.
 
@Azzy

Placing your own limitations on it doesn't work. Prove the extradimensions are only 5-D, our lack of knowledge on them doesn't mean you can simply use the lowest end possible. It doesn't work like that.

I think a "At least High Multiverse Level+, possibly Complex Multiverse Level" would be plausible seeing as how nothing proves it's 5-D and nothing proves otherwise
 
It works exactly like that.

And it's up to you to prove that they are 6D or above, it's not up to us to prove that they aren't.
 
Actually it does, generally, in cases like these, the low ends are the safer bets, in which case they are used.
 
@Azzy

Also your argument dervives from the word "world"

World is a vague term and verily using it as the basis doesn't work. It simply mean the dimension
 
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