Archie Sonic CRT: Smart Swords and Tricky Pests

[ShakeResounding]

Introduction​

We're here for some simple additions to the verse, and not many at that, so let's hop into it.

Additions​

Source of All​

• Omniscience for the Intelligence section (Everything began from the Source of All, which is also said to be "everything". It is stated to grant knowledge of things to come, as well as seeing the past, present, and future alike. It has shown events of the future to Maximilian Acorn, as well as both the past and future to Sally. Had Sally bonded with the Source, she would "know everything". By products of the Source of All also appear in alternate timelines like Dark Mobius through things such as the Sword of Acorns and Anarchy Beryl, an alternate universe version of the Chaos Emeralds. All universes diverge from the Prime Zone, meaning the Source of All should be within all of them as well)

Sword of Acorns​

• Adding an Intelligence section, as it's moreso a sentient weapon rather than just a weapon, and have it as Omniscient due to it being forged within the Source of All and retaining it's cognitive properties.

Base Sonic​

• Attack Reflection (Sonic can utilize his Spin Attack to reflect projectiles, which includes magical attacks, and render him unharmed)
• Underground Mobility (Utilizing his nature as a hedgehog and unparalleled speed, Sonic has repeatedly showcased the ability to burrow underground)
• Resistance to Preparation (Referred to by Eggman as a variable you cannot prepare for, and an inconsistency he cannot plan for even when he tries due to being patently unpredictable)Deemed redundant.
• Resistance to Precognition (Caused a disturbance and unforeseen event to the Source of All and the Sword of Acorns, both of which can see all events that have already happened, is happening, and will happen alike, which resulted in the destruction of the last bit of the Source of All)
• Resistance to Extrasensory Perception (Like Tails had done, Sonic and Knuckles bypassed Mogul's sixth sense during his First Tenure)
  • Essentially, Sonic's previous Resistance to Precognition is converted into this. This also means Supers lose their Resistance to Precog as well.

Eggman​

• Acausality (Type 3. Sonic Prime must have a Robotnik to fight for the stability of his Zone)

 

[ElixirBlue]

Resistance to Batma-

Based

I of course Agree

 

[Theuser789]

First for resistance to Batman

 

[Starsprite53]

I agree

 

[ElixirBlue]

Attack Reflection (Sonic can utilize his Spin Attack to deflect projectiles and render him unharmed)

Providing supporting evidence and suggesting improvement:

In the P&A section:

Attack Reflection (Sonic can utilize his Spin Attack to deflect projectiles and render him unharmed, including from magical attacks)

In the notable attacks/techniques section:

* Attack Reflection:
** Sonic utilize his Spin Attack to reflect incoming projectiles. This includes from magical attacks.

Scans:

 

[ShakeResounding]

Added.

 

[Theuser789]

• Attack Reflection (Sonic can utilize his Spin Attack to reflect projectiles, which includes magical attacks, and render him unharmed)
• Underground Mobility (Utilizing his nature as a hedgehog and unparalleled speed, Sonic has repeatedly showcased the ability to burrow underground)

Wouldn't these two apply to characters who also use spin attacks? Like Shadow?

 

[Thelastmlg]

Resistance to preparation sounds so ridiculous and i like it.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Wouldn't these two apply to characters who also use spin attacks? Like Shadow?

Would they? Maybe regular Attack Reflection, but not for magical attacks, something Sonic already has resistance to from something else.

 

[Theuser789]

Is there something special about Sonic's spin dash?

 

[Mister6ame6]

I agree with this

 

[ElixirBlue]

Is there something special about Sonic's spin dash?

No, but Sonic already resist magic and the attack reflection feat towards magical attacks only came from him.

 

[Theuser789]

The don't scale it to magic then

 

[sanicspood]

wouldn’t the resistance to prep go with fate hax?

 

[ElixirBlue]

The don't scale it to magic then

Right, it’d be only Sonic for magical attacks.

Tails has shown the Spin Attack, as well as Shadow and Scourge. Idk who else atm.

wouldn’t the resistance to prep go with fate hax?

It’s an Application of the FateHax, yes

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Didn't say anything here earlier bc I occupied myself with other things. I agree with the additions
Resistance to Batman tho, it's nice

 

[ShakeResounding]

Bump!

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

Resistance to Batman is too OP.

Anyways, I agree

 

[Lord_JJJ]

Agree with everything exept resistance to omnisience, I am sure that thing do not exist anyway and might seen as just an anti-feat for The Source of all be omnisience, I think that the source of all should be only nigh-omnisience
Also like must people had say before resistance to Batman is something so great

 

[ShakeResounding]

Agree with everything exept resistance to omnisience, I am sure that thing do not exist anyway and might seen as just an anti-feat for The Source of all be omnisience, I think that the source of all should be only nigh-omnisience

Yet this is practically no different than Comic Thanos resisting Omniscience. It's not impossible, just uncommon.

 

[Lord_JJJ]

I didn't know there was already characters with resistance to omnisience that seems to me very weird, I think I am now natural about resistance to omnisience

 

[Theuser789]

Bump

 

[ElixirBlue]

Bump

 

[Bernkastelll]

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• Resistance to Precognition and Omniscience (Caused a disturbance and unforeseen event to the Source of All and the Sword of Acorns, both of which can see all events that have already happened, is happening, and will happen alike, which resulted in the destruction of the last bit of the Source of All)

I am legit neutral about this, if a Omniscient beigng cannot understand something, he isnt omniscient, even if he has a lot of Omniscient statements, but im not sure, but I am fine with the others

 

[DragonLord]

Bump

 

[ShakeResounding]

If a Omniscient beigng cannot understand something, he isnt omniscient, even if he has a lot of Omniscient statements

Tell that to Marvel while you're at it

Context matters, though. We've already got the statements that Sonic is a variable on the quantum level that can't be accounted for and is virtually unpredictable, and we've got repeated statements of a being in the verse that's Omniscient across the multiverse. You can have both, and they fit together well without even being that large of a contradiction to Omniscience due to Sonic's nature.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Tell that to Marvel while you're at it

Marvel characters are nigh-omniscient

Context matters, though. We've already got the statements that Sonic is a variable on the quantum level that can't be accounted for and is virtually unpredictable, and we've got repeated statements of a being in the verse that's Omniscient across the multiverse. You can have both, and they fit together well without even being that large of a contradiction to Omniscience due to Sonic's nature.

No you cant, if the omniscient doesnt know, it isnt omniscient, thats it

 

[ShakeResounding]

No you cant, if the omniscient doesnt know, it isnt omniscient, thats it

That makes no sense within the context of the story at all. Ignoring a fundamental aspect of a character simply because "it can't be that way because of so and so" is some ass backwards logic if I've ever heard some. The Source is Omniscient because the Source is the building blocks of everything in the multiverse. It's in everything. Sonic isn't excluded from "everything". We're gonna be sitting here arguing semantics at this rate.

 

[OnsokunoSonic]

I agree obviously

 

[Bernkastelll]

That makes no sense within the context of the story at all. Ignoring a fundamental aspect of a character simply because "it can't be that way because of so and so" is some ass backwards logic if I've ever heard some. The Source is Omniscient because the Source is the building blocks of everything in the multiverse. It's in everything. Sonic isn't excluded from "everything". We're gonna be sitting here arguing semantics at this rate.

It does, it is nit a ass backward logic, it is completly against the logic of omniscient, even if it has Omniscient statements, if it is contradicted, it isnt omniscient, just Nigh

 

[sanicspood]

aerrnt there beings in fiction who resist full omniscience?

 

[Gabs22_Gamer]

This seems fine.

 

[Bernkastelll]

aerrnt there beings in fiction who resist full omniscience?

Then it is not omniscience

 

[Lord_JJJ]

I agree, The Sorce of all should just be nigh-omnisience

 

[ElixirBlue]

We've already got the statements that Sonic is a variable on the quantum level that can't be accounted for

Dr. Eggman stated he effected everything to change Sonic and assumed his FateHax functioned on the Quantum level. Nothing changed about the FateHax, so it’s origin exists somewhere else.

It does, it is nit a ass backward logic, it is completly against the logic of omniscient, even if it has Omniscient statements, if it is contradicted, it isnt omniscient, just Nigh

The Source of All is and knows everything existing in the “Plane of Existence” which is 3D and since it is “everything” along with knowing the past, present and future, it is 4D as well.

Archie’s cosmology separates dimensionality as “Plane of Existences”. The Source knows everything existing within its “Plane of Existence”.

The FateHax has consistent feats of making opponents stupid or forgetful. Altering their behavior to prevent them from making intelligent choices.

“An omniscient character is still capable of being overpowered and losing, however.”

Capable of losing? Sonic’s FateHax is: “Sonic always wins in the end”

 

[Bernkastelll]

Dr. Eggman stated he effected everything to change Sonic and assumed his FateHax functioned on the Quantum level. Nothing changed about the FateHax, so it’s origin exists somewhere else.




The Source of All is and knows everything existing in the “Plane of Existence” which is 3D and since it is “everything” along with knowing the past, present and future, it is 4D as well.

Archie’s cosmology separates dimensionality as “Plane of Existences”. The Source knows everything existing within its “Plane of Existence”.

The FateHax has consistent feats of making opponents stupid or forgetful. Altering their behavior to prevent them from making intelligent choices.

“An omniscient character is still capable of being overpowered and losing, however.”

Capable of losing? Sonic’s FateHax is: “Sonic always wins in the end”

Oh wait wait, the source is 4-D and Sonic fate thing is 5-D right? If yes, i wouldnt say that it is omniscience resistance, i would say that it is more like the natural way of a 4-D thing not be able to understand 5-D, yeah, i see

 

[DragonLord]

Bump

 

[ElixirBlue]

Bump

 

[ElixirBlue]

Bump

 

[The_Wright_Way]

I'm going to just say no to resistance to preparation, on the grounds that it's honestly just plain ridiculous. That sounds more like a limit to what Eggman can do with prep time than anything, especially sense he doesn't really have a way past the passive fate hax. That's like giving Joker "resistance to preparation" for being unpredictable to Batman.

Sword of Acorns needs scans for its Omniscience.

The rest looks fine.