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Arceus vs Enerjak
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Pikaman
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Last I remember we were debating whether that was the case but idk maybe something happened further up the thread
Pikaman
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Also this is a debate going on in 2 different threads atm I think so we should be cautious about closing this and make sure everyone’s conceded in all areas this debate is happening
Pikaman
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Yeah but we can just… ignore it?
If the interpretation by the majority is Arceus has 5D hax then who cares a handful of people argue the opposite in every thread, just ignore them and put your votes in assuming 5D hax
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I edited the OP so this isn't true Enerjak. Arceus doesn't need 5D hax now
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If there’s just no proof Arceus has 5D hax (from what I read) I don’t think you can just assume he does.
Pikaman
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I think we’re arguing on whether Arceus has 5D hax by nature of being dimensionally superior to his 4D avatar who has these hax, considering all those powers come from 5D Arceus’ perception.
it’s irrelevant to this particular match now anyways
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Pikaman
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Kind of a “he made the powers and gave them to his avatar so the natural assumption is that 5D Arceus possesses those same powers on a corresponding level of dimensional superiority to the difference in AP/Dimensionality”
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Going to repost this to back-up my point.
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I have no idea why people think Arceus has no 5D hax. He literally created his own realm's time and space which can contain him, so its 5D spacetime manipulation
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Sniper670
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Good idea. You can also let them know about Arceus, so they get a good idea on who we're dealing with
Pikaman
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Tbf that thread is pretty old
Might be worth making a new thread just to clarify this whole situation and get an update on staff’s stance
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Sniper670
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Fair enough
Hasty12345
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so none of the llama's hax scale to 5D? Did I misinterpret something?
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I think only spacetime manipulation
Other than that I'm not sure yet
If it is then Arceus would go "hulk smash!" on enerjak
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I just realised that Enerjak can send Low 1-Cs like Sonic flying and tank his attacks. So Arceus' only win con is sealing, which can work on Giratina, who can travel through dimensions. Does Enerjak destroy multiverses in character?
Sniper670
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That seems to be the case
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Guess that 5D Arceus thing can be saved for another thread.
Anyway Arceus resists Avatar Enerjak’s everything and negs all of his abilities with Attack Negation/Power Null, so this seems like a stomp unless I missed a win con for Enerjak
Anyway Arceus resists Avatar Enerjak’s everything and negs all of his abilities with Attack Negation/Power Null, so this seems like a stomp unless I missed a win con for Enerjak
Pikaman
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Could probably do with an update thread in the questions forum to make sure but yeah as it stands
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I don't see any wincons for enerjak
Pikaman
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Apparently Enerjak can just beat Arceus to death
suprisingly forward this high up into the tiers
Unless this is wrong of course I’m not familiar with Archie OR this high up level of vs threads
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Enerjak has far higher AP since he can send Low 1-Cs flying so Arceus probably won't even be able to power null all that. Arceus can probably survive attacks and eventually decide to seal, or just dies before he gets the chance to. It all depends on how high above baseline Low 1-C, and we need Sonic supporters
This means this matchup is more strategy and stat based than hax
Sniper670
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Why do you think they were using Arceus 4D hax cap against him
He dogwalks the verse if his power could've scaled to 5D
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Can this enerjak effect abstract existence?
Sniper670
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Physical attacks are pretty much useless unless it can negate durability due to his Invulnerability.
Unfortunately Arceus Invulnerability can negate durability negation so eh
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I don’t think mid highs can be beaten like that tho
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TrueWhy do you think they were using Arceus 4D hax cap against him
He dogwalks the verse if his power could've scaled to 5D
I wish someone can do a crt or research on Arceus hax being 5D
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