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Arceus speed upgrade?

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If I recall correctly, wasn't he stated to have transcended his creations? Not trying to upgrade his AP, but wouldn't that make his speed immeasurable, because he transcended beings who are time and space, and have fought in broken time and space?
 
Yeah. But that's complete. I'm talking about incomplete, which is still >>>>>>> the creation trio, and Arceus can create them even while plateless.
 
The real cal howard said:
Yeah. But that's complete. I'm talking about incomplete, which is still >>>>>>> the creation trio, and Arceus can create them even while plateless.
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I don't see why people got the idea of the plates boost his power.
 
Actually, should he be omnipresent? He was capable of calling to Darkrai after the event from Arceus knows where (see what I did there) while Lucas/Dawn was still collecting the plates.
 
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Actually, should he be omnipresent? He was capable of calling to Darkrai after the event from Arceus knows where (see what I did there) while Lucas/Dawn was still collecting the plates.
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then how were the Creashin trio hiting him?
 
Because Arceus can still manifest a body, and that entire movie is filled with PIS. Like universal Pikachu, silver water, and of course, meteor.
 
The real cal howard said:
Because Arceus can still manifest a body, and that entire movie is filled with PIS. Like universal Pikachu, silver water, and of course, meteor.
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sense he needs a Body shouldn't the measurement of his speed be for that body?
 
He doesn't need a body. Just like the rest of the creation trio don't need a body. Let alone their unsealed forms.
 
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He doesn't need a body. Just like the rest of the creation trio don't need a body. Let alone their unsealed forms.
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yes but uncomplt archaeus is supposed to be Archas without all the plats and he needs that body to fight.
 
There's several omnipresents who create bodies to do things. For example, most of Marvel's abstracts. Or YHVH.
 
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There's several omnipresents who create bodies to do things. For example, most of Marvel's abstracts. Or YHVH.
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yes but uncomplete archaeus is supposed to be that body.
 
Darkmon cns said:
The real cal howard said:
Yeah. But that's complete. I'm talking about incomplete, which is still >>>>>>> the creation trio, and Arceus can create them even while plateless.
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I don't see why people got the idea of the plates boost his power.
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Well if we're talking about the movie (which we are) then yes they do. Otherwise if the plates had nothing to do with Arceus's power he wouldnt have remotely been on the verge of death when coming into contact with PIS meteor

Your only making a point here if we're talking about Arceus in other canon's such as the Manga
 
I don't see why people got the idea of the plates boost his power.
Well if we're talking about the movie (which we are) then yes they do. Otherwise if the plates had nothing to do with Arceus's power he wouldnt have remotely been on the verge of death when coming into contact with PIS meteor
. Your only making a point here if we're talking about Arceus in other canon's such as the Manga

I thought the profiles were composit
 
And I agree with this. Incomplete Arceus should get Immeasurable speed for this reasoning. In fact wasnt there a respect thread that showed Arceus was shaking both its universe and the human universe with just speed alone?
 
Another ting. Doesn't he fit the qualifications of type four immortality? He'd get it by virtue of godhood
 
@Breloom There isn't solid evidence that suggest that Arceus relied on concepts and same applies to the Creation Trio. They shape and actively form these concepts.
 
Arceus has type-8 due to the plates actually. (On mobile atm so I can't provide the scan)

The Creation Trio are abstracts therefore concept manipulation and type-8 should be a given.
 
I disagree with the upgrades sorry, type-4 immortality is only for characters being protected by a stronger entity. Incomplete Arceus was never outside a space-time continuum, therefore infinite should stay.
 
@Breloom to be fair about this, Arceus transcend time and space and not to mention he also live in a dimension that is outside of spacetime.
 
I'm... dubious. Are we sure we can take this "transcend" statement literally? Or would it just be a statement to show how much stronger he is?

Also, if this were accepted, it would create quite the inconsistency with how the Creation Trio can actually fight Arceus (Yes they were horribly outclassed, but they weren't blitzed to high heaven).
 
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