Anos vs Baal

[Enter_Bluey]

Yeah, looks like anos gets layer diffed here and baal has a wincon, so I guess I'll vote baal

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Baal's EE resistance is 4-D?

Magic in general is 4-D

(Magic is a fundamental element of existence that can alter the essence of reality, being a force that is beyond all belief and philosophy. It shapes life, gives rise to dreams, acts as the essence/concept of everything, and is the basis for every other kind of energy, action and reaction. Magic encompasses all elements of creation and can influence the Soul Flux)

 

[Arency]

Voting Ball Baal asw

 

[Thermor]

Magic in general is 4-D

When magic has dimensionality?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

When magic has dimensionality?

Magic in Anima comes from the soul flux (a 4-D structure) and can affect the soul flux. It's also "linked" to it.

 

[Thermor]

Magic in Anima comes from the soul flux (a 4-D structure) and can affect the soul flux. It's also "linked" to it.

Aren't magic and souls are abstract? They cant be having dimensionality.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Anus Volitoad proves to be fodder again FRA

 

[Ruler_Star_Kuma]

can change my vote to baal

 

[Delusionaltx2]

From my experience in the site, they can guard against both but the latter ends up not mattering if you resist the former.

Resistances that guard against things with different level of existences only work if the verse treats them that way since otherwords they would follow the standard description for how resistances normally work on the wiki.

It doesnt matter. His P&A directly says that All Fiction is causality manip

Casuality manip is an extension of it. P&A doesn't describe perfectly how an ability works all the time Hatsune what the "notable attacks/techniques" page is for.

and that EE is a result of it.

Again the actual description takes president over whatever P&A says when it comes to abilities even per the wikis rules

If you think thats wrong make a CRT to change his P&A.

Don't need too

A power having applications doesnt mean it's "more fundamental" than those applications,

it does if said applications as i've already outlined are completely different in levels of existence

if thats what you are trying to say. I haven't seen any thread where that has been the case.

Cool, it isn't

Plus, we have no written standard nor any apparent precedent regarding "more fundamental law hax means you cant conventionally resist it

Again we literally do this with more fundemental abilities like conceptual manip and info manip

even if you resist general law hax". Like I said, what matters right now in this case, and what we do have written down in the standards, are layers and smurf hax, which Anos has none of.

No that's part of what matters, the nature of the ability (things like limitations for example) also matter and baals law hax resistance doesn't extend to mathematics manip.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

can change my vote to baal

Looks like we hit grace then. I'll go ahead and update the Strongest 4-D thread.

 

[BreezeHM]

Voting Baal. The arguments in favor of Anos are unconvincing.

 

[Shar122]

Baal FRA

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

@Grabbing_dragon[/USER]

Where my name is coming from, I didn’t want to touch this thread because the GOAT is losing. But you can let my name stay there. I vote Baal.

 

[Robo432343]

Where my name is coming from, I didn’t want to touch this thread because the GOAT is losing. But you can let my name stay there. I vote Baal.

Oh wtf
I thought you were someone else