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But nothing of those refutes what I just said.
Mr King of neativity's words are more valid than Pachi's since King has read all the Dark tower series and knows the verse depeer than Pachi.
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Anos Voldigoad VS Pennywise.
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Mr King of neativity's words are more valid than Pachi's since King has read all the Dark tower series and knows the verse depeer than Pachi.
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King has long lost his interest for the verse and refused to give evidences when requested, so yknow...
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Tenchi got downgraded to 1-B
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Nope.
Those kids were explicitly amped by beings above even True Pennywise's paygrade, on a physical, mental and spiritual level.
And as I said, you can only hurt True Pennywise by the ritual of Chud, hurting the avatar is meaningless for the true self.
Pachi's words were just empty assumptions
Those weren't normal kids.
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Yes, the dude who actually read the series and gives evidence for his arguments uses empty assumptions, of course.
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Yes, compared to King Who has read the entire Dark Tower series....
And read what I said above.
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You missed this
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Anyway.
1.The losers were blessed by 1-A entities above IT'S paygrade.
2. You can only hurt his true form by the ritual of Chud.
So Yeah, type 9 still combat applicable
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Ok, can you show a scan that states that they were explicitly amped by Gan then?
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They were also amped by Maturin in the first round. In the second Round, they were adults and Richie was able to hurt IT'S Spider form by an entity called "The other" presumibly Gan.
So they were amped by two Gods to fight the clown, not just one.
I've read the book too
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Yeah, type 9 here is pretty much useless against Anos's wide arsenal of Haxxes
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So do you have a scan?
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Sorry for being late, I couldn't find any raw scans, It is extremely difficult to find scans of The Dark Tower, don't know why.
But, I've read the book, why I would lie to you saying all of this???
Anyway, I've read the book and I'm going to give you some information from the Wikia:
"In this time It is able to escape further into her lair, dropping eggs along the way that Ben stays to crush, as Beverly remains with Eddie's body. Reluctantly Richie leaves Eddie and Bill leaves Audra to go further after It needing to ensure It dies this time. Finding It, they hit It with their collective belief and love and childhood nostalgia ALONG WITH THE POWER OF THE OTHER, Richie is knocked out, Bill crushes Its heart between his hands, and carries Richie, who he believes may be dead, back to the other Losers."
In It, Maturin seemed to serve largely as a spectator to the events that unfolded in the battle between It and the Losers' Club. Maturin only involved himself and advised the young Bill Denbrough during the Ritual of Chüd in 1958, while Gan provided the Losers with most of their strength. Maturin initially politely introduced himself to Bill, and upon his plea for help simply stated that he “took no stand” in the matters at hand. However, after considering his “brother” with some disdain and contempt, Maturin swiftly provided great council and advice to the young man, assuring that It was ultimately afraid of Bill, human potential, and of the Turtle himself. Maturin ultimately urged Bill to battle the monstrous being with his willpower, mental strength, and internal faith and believe. With the Turtle’s encouragement and support; Bill overpowers and badly wounds It; forcing It into retreat
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I never said you were lying, I just wanted the scan
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Anyway, as you can see, the kids were amped both rounds.
When they were kids, and then adults.
The only way for Anos to hurt IT'S true form is by doing It psychically through the ritual of Chud.
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the clown has chances to Incap
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Anos could also use NEP type 2, Corrosion, or Time manipulation to incap Penny too.
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Anos NEP type 2 is only to his source, he still can be affected, Corrosion won't rlly be that effective
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What about Time manipulation?
Also, Anos could use Nothingness (NEP Type 2) to protect himself from everything Pennywise throws at him.
Also, don't forget that he could control Penny's movements (Not his mind) by compulsion Magic. He could just make Pennywise hit himself indefinitely for eternity, that could work as incap.
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his Madness hax works from eye contact on his Avatar key
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Well, couldn't Anos's protection of Nothingness protect him from Penny's mental attacks?
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His nothingness only protect his source(concept), I don't know if Anos can use his nothingness to protect him from mental attacks.
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It should, becouse when using Nothingness It should make himself nonexistant, so any Haxxes which can't interact with NEP type 2 are simple useless.
Also, don't forget Anos's compulsion Magic, he could just order Pennywise to hit himself indefinitely for eternity, incaping him, that could work as one of Anos's wincons.
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Does the Madness hax only work on the mind? Cuz Anos doesn’t need his mind to fight.
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If Madness Hax is Type 3, no it shouldn't just work on the mind iirc
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I don’t have much experience with Madness hax so I went to the page to see roughly what it is .......... it looks like it only hits the mind.
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Definitely not, there are other characters who can induce Madness to inanimate objects and objects that shouldn't physically be able to go mad (Cthulhu from Cthulhu Saves the World), it's why Type 2 Mind Manip is distinguished from Type 3. So one cannot assume that a lack of mind automatically means a resistance to it. Especially since Type 3 affects other aspects outside of just the Mind.
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Okay but the description for Type 3 makes no mention of that. Like I said, it don’t have any experience with this stuff. If Pennywise’ works on things without a mind, you can just post the scan that says that.
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This, even the Limitations of Type 3 Madness implies that Resistance to Mind Manip doesn't help whatsoever:
- Limitations: Those who are capable of perceiving, understanding and/or experiencing that which is naturally extreme or incomprehensible should be able to ignore this. Likewise, unless there is evidence to suggest differently, beings whose physical forms are similarly complex or extreme in nature are likely to be unaffected by exposure to such a being.
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Madness Type 3 is not seeing, it's perceiving so just being blind wouldn't work. You need explicit resistance to the nature of cosmic beings, otherwise many other characters in other settings could just close their eyes lol. Madness Type 3 is way more potent than that.
