Where does it say Gero had no idea how strong him and 19 would be? For Goku sure he didn't account for all the things on Namek but my argument really isn't about what he didn't know, it's about what he did know, obviously he didn't expect SS but that has nothing to do with my argument, because the sheer fact he went to 4-C with his data alone shows he was prepared for a high 5-A possibility to begin with
Your logic REQUIRES Gero to know that 768,000 is equal to High 5-A+. He doesn't. That's a fact. This alone refutes your math.
No? My logic DOESN'T require Gero to know that 768,000 is equal to High 5-A, it requires that he knows how strong Goku is and his rate of power increasing, which he does, that's a fact, be it energy, power level, ect, that changes nothing as the results are still the same, Goku's growth in power
He CAN'T. His number DO NOT TAKE incremental growth into consideration. He can read Moon Level energy from Raditz Arc Goku, then read Planet level energy from Vegeta Arc Goku,
Alright, lets break it down one at a time, if he can read moon level energy, then planet level, what stops him from calculating it to Dwarf Star, when it's possible to do so with power levels, which again both rely on detecting energy, this is the equivalent of feet and meters, I might have different 2 numbers, but at the end of the day they still tell the same story
Correct, with a 19.2 energy growth, which he would be using, regardless on what number Gero uses, the amount of energy would still be the same
It doesn't make sense mathematically because you are thinking Gero is using the exact same numbers as power levels, its his equivalent, ki is ki, energy is energy, doesn't matter what numbers you are using it's going to end at the same result regardless on how its done.
And the variable is Gero's equivalent of 19.2, alongside his equivalent of 8,000, and 768,000, which are are things he'd be able to reach as those are variable's in his data, just in his own language.
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I will stop it here, because the rest of your reply is just mental gymnastics. (Although this is too),
Power Levels are an incremental growth value, Gero's have no reason to be.
Again, equivalents my good sir, you are using the power level's increases when the fact remains they are both scanning the same source, ki, you keep trying to say meters and feet have no relation, Gero has Raditz's data, and as such has his power level equivalent in Gero Energy™, Gero has Vegeta's data and therefore has the power level equivalent in Gero Energy™, he has the power level equivalent of 418 and 8,000 in Gero Energy™ because HE HAS THAT DATA, he doesn't need power levels to gauge it because he has his own system that is the equivalent to it, doesn't matter if he says Base Saiyan Saga Goku is 500 Geros, 700 Geros, or 90,000 Geros, it'd still equal a power level of over 8,000 since it's talking about the exact same thing, their power, the fact remains that whatever number of Gero Energy™ it would be the equivalent of my power level math, as it's the calculation of their power growths, nothing says an Extraordinary Genius like Gero wouldn't know the pattern, as he had invented a system for it which CAN detect these levels of power and more.
No. There's no equivalency because Gero's data DOES NOT factor the same arbitrary variables PL has. It can't have, as Gero does not know how it functions. You're trying to compare a "variable" to a "function".
Ok then, let me ask you, what is Gero scanning, and what are Scouters scanning, because last I checked they are both ki energy
Nothing directly points to it besides the filler scene where the Z Fighters absolutely destroy the Ginyu Force, however considering the possibility of my math it would definitely be a far easier assumption, as it would be hard to argue that Gero wouldn't assume Goku would get at least 10 times stronger in 5 years
As I explained, expecting Gero to take PL's insane inflation in Number-Power ratio into consideration is low key insane, his "770,000" power level-equivalent wouldn't be assumed to be High 5-A+
It's not a hypothetical multiplier though, it's taking what is established to us and using that to show what would be an unknown, it's wouldn't make sense to have Yamcha at that level when it's been stated that Gero calculated how strong Goku would be by that time and that we know Gero took the highest estimates.
You did not explain anything like that, you were saying how Gero would have no way to calculate that, which is entirely different
There needs to be one
I said he would have no way to calculate Power Levels because of the inflation in said ratio, which is something that happens in the Namek Saga, out of nowhere. His statistics couldn't compensate for something he wasn't aware of, and they don't feature this inflation in them.
Again, equivalation, power levels are entirely based around scanning ki, the exact same thing Gero did for his scanners, you are highly insistent on separating the two and using our tiers for it when that's not what Gero is doing, he's not multiplying tnt or anything like that, he's multiplying ki, being unaware of power levels is entirely irrelevant when he knows about the energy they are based around. If you want to prove me wrong, prove Gero's scanner/Scouters aren't ki based, as that's the only factor that matters as they would be calculating the same thing.
Ki is energy. Being based on the same thing doesn't mean both values are interpreted in the same way, there is inflation in one value, not in another. That's the end, being based on Ki proves nothing.
One thing does not relate to the other, you just don't understand basic math.
What are you on about, if we were to be measuring distance and I used feet while you used meters it'd be the same thing, as at the end of the day we are still measuring distance
******* Arceus.....
AYO, NOT LIKE THAT BRO, DON'T TAKE THIS OUT OF CONTEXT
I so desperately want to just comment "ratio."
I just desperately want to say: Closed.
