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Alucard Revisions: Adding a Second Key

I'm unsure, but wasn't it stated Dark Lord Soma Cruz was weaker than his Aria of Sorrow era? And I know Time Reaper has been brought up numerous times and is Low 2-C in general, but Dracula's profile implies he's "Far superior to Time Reaper". So there kind of does need to be a change in some way or form.
 
Ah I see. It sounds like he should be downgrade to At least 4-A, possibly Low 2-C then.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
I'm unsure, but wasn't it stated Dark Lord Soma Cruz was weaker than his Aria of Sorrow era?
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No that I remember but the fact that Dark Lord Soma is the one that fails against Chaos and so is unable to manage that power becoming another avatar of Chaos in earth meanwhile Full Power Soma/End of Aria is capable of absorbing said powers without falling for them and fights not only Chaos influence but Chaos itself is the reason for why I think he is superior to his Dark Lord self and by extension his DoS self
 
Dante Demon Killah said:
Time Reaper was destrying the timeline but apparently overtime, so his feat isn't exactly Low 2-C, I guess ?
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It wasn't over time, he was tasked to destroy Drac's time as a demon lord, besides he scales to Aeon who is full blown Low 2-C due to creating the time rift

4-A Castlevania is stupid and creates more isssues than it solves
 
ZephyrosOmega said:
Given that, I motion that Alucard should be given a second key that's fully Low 2-C for being comparable to both Julius (Who is also fully Low 2-C, mind you) and Soma, who is Low 2-C in both keys. Should be a simple enough revision, all things considered.
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It honestly seems ridiculous that Alucard somehow is full Low 2-C without an amp/canon power boost in the Sorrow games, yet is apparently 4-A in his Sotn and past incarnations, all so this mangled scaling could make sense.

All in all, i disagree with extra keys, just makes the already bad scaling worse
 
Aeon: Right on time. Welcome to the time rift.

Shanoa: What is this place? I have a task I must complete.

Aeon: This is an alternate universe. You must pass a series of trials in order to gain passage out.

Shanoa: Is that so... Then it appears I have no choice.

Aeon: My name is Aeon. Shall we begin the first trial?

Okay...we have a problem
 
Well yeah, 4-A messes alot with the scaling.

Either keep it as is or upgrade them all to full Low 2-C (Including past Belmonts etc.). Adding definitive "Low 2-C" keys to profiles who are currenctly "4-A, possibly Low 2-C" i.e "4-A, possibly Low 2-C | Low 2-C" messes alot with the bad scaling, giving those characters basically infinite jumps of power out of nowhere

Besides Shanoa, Alucard, Simon etc. can all beat Aeon or scale to him through the Time Reaper who's Low 2-C is also legit (Not over time)
 
I mean, they all scale to him IIRC, that's where they possibly low 2-C comes from after all, it doesn't change the scaling chain in the long run, it just gives them a full low 2-C status
 
It changes the scalling

Trevor can fight Alucard and Simon on equal grounds in that game, and he even said to Alucard to not hold back
 
It gives them infinite jumps of power in terms of power mate see "4-A, possibly Low 2-C | Low 2-C"
 
This started with adding Alucard a second key and now it is a full AP revision lol

We need to call Matt, Medeus and Glassman
 
No, nothing needs to change, just keep the profiles like they are now. Besides Matt disagrees vehemently with full Low 2-C, even though there is tons of evidence for it including scaling
 
Also currently the "Soul manip" needs to removed of most profiles, i.e Belmonts and some characters who don't have a more elaborate explanation, destroying disembodied Souls doesn't count as Soul manip

As for that i planned on adding shit like Subjective Reality, Physics/Law manip, Gravity manip, D-BFR etc. for Dracula
 
I think Base soma should be downgraded to include the 4-A stuff, but Julius doesn't really have any indication of getting weaker between Aria and Dawn IIRC. I think the keys should then be:

Alucard: At least 4-A, likely Low 2-C | Low 2-C

Key: Symphony of the Night | As Genya Arikado


Soma: At least 4-A, likely Low 2-C | Low 2-C | Low 2-C

Key: Base | Dark Lord Soma | Full Power
 
Yeah it's NPI

Considering the 4-A stuff, I guess Zeph makes sense

However Trevor and Simon can fight each other on equal grounds and Trevor can also fight post SOTN Alucard on a fight were he directly states that would not hold back, so Simon and Trevor scale to "At least 4-A, likely Low 2-C"

Also, worth saying that Trevor from that game is like post Castle 3 and Curse of Darkness, so he might got stronger
 
If "Base Soma" is his DoS self, then he can't be 4-A, he defeated Menace who's death destroyed the Abyss, which at bare minimum holds a universe
 
Subjective Reality for Drac: Scaling off of Brauner who's paintings can be entire pocket dimensions and can literally come to life, also Stella and Loretta who can make the memories of Richter in the Vampire Killer real and let Jonathan fight it

Subjective Reality/Reality Warping possibly for Death too, in Bloodlines he can create cards with inscriptions on them, activating them brings Morris/Lecarde to past bosses and their locations albeit colors changed or creates meat. i.e meat card creates meat, boss cards creates bosses

Dimensional BFR: Powerscaling off of Death, should be able to transport beings through the Abyss

Physics/Law manip: The reverse Castle is upside down ontop of the regular Castle and is perfectly capable of being that way, candles and fires are burning upside down, waterfalls are falling up and rivers are all upside down aswell. Nation of Fools and Burnt Paradies, which are created by Brauner, don't abide logic and have for example enemies on walls walking perfectly fine, geometry defying gravity, candles burning upside down etc. (Should powerscale to Drac).

Gravity manip: Self explanatory from the reverse castle, though generally the Castle tends to abide its own laws of gravity aswell

Time Travel: Powerscaling off of Galamoth, possibly the Time Reaper aswell

I can add pictures for the reverse castle, nation of fools, burnt paradise etc. though can't for Bloodlines (Don't have the game)
 
LightinAnt said:
If "Base Soma" is his DoS self, then he can't be 4-A, he defeated Menace who's death destroyed the Abyss, which at bare minimum holds a universe
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Where does this comes from? Obviously DoS but I want some scans of it
 
I agree with Alucard getting a New key and Low 2-C. Also agree with Soma getting a Full Power key
 
Tony di bugalu said:
LightinAnt said:
If "Base Soma" is his DoS self, then he can't be 4-A, he defeated Menace who's death destroyed the Abyss, which at bare minimum holds a universe
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Where does this comes from? Obviously DoS but I want some scans of it
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Check out the blog, the Abyss is made of several dimensions, one of which has an entire cosmos in the background
 
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