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mfw creating portals is 2-C 
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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
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Goku vs Homelander(3-2-0
Tv series Homelander vs Post-korin Training Goku Location: New York Starting distance: 10 meters Goku is Mach 8 Homelander is mach 18 Homelander 20 tons Goku 7 tons Homelander: @Rex_Eckles @Mommyleona Goku: @BoastJr @LandonTheGuy @Nonynho just used king Piccolo arc image because i liked...
supertomioka
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Why aren't Shin and gowasu tier 2 for blocking IZ attacks
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WHAT...NOOOOO THIS CANT BEEEEE
Faridw
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On the Dragon Ball Hypertimeline blog, there is evidence that Pilaf added a dimensional plug to enable interdimensional travel.
Well, Future Trunks’ timeline has been completely erased and is gone entirely—so why is interdimensional travel still possible? Isn’t there a higher dimension
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Can anyone explain it? I don't understand
Well, Future Trunks’ timeline has been completely erased and is gone entirely—so why is interdimensional travel still possible? Isn’t there a higher dimension
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Can anyone explain it? I don't understand
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We've already explained this, it's possible to travel to timeless voids the timeline has been completely deleted, leaving behind a vast emptiness where no concepts exist anymore.
Faridw
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can you post a link to a thread discusses that?
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I explained a few things in my crt
Zen'ō Special Edition
Zen'oh erased the timeline completely, the time ring is gone, the time machine only has that name, but Bulma asked pillaf to add a dimensional plug to the machine, which makes it travel anywhere regardless of time and space. Dimensional plug that bypassed time travel that happens to be...
Faridw
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Doesn't interdimensional travel require coordinates to know the position? And also to transmit to a place? If there is no connecting space, then it is impossible to travel between dimensions?I explained a few things in my crt
Zen'ō Special Edition
Zen'oh erased the timeline completely, the time ring is gone, the time machine only has that name, but Bulma asked pillaf to add a dimensional plug to the machine, which makes it travel anywhere regardless of time and space. Dimensional plug that bypassed time travel that happens to be...vsbattles.com
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Welt Yang Vs Infinite Zamasu (Honkai: Star Rail Vs Dragon Ball)
Welt Yang Vs Anti-Spiral Post-Sea of Quanta Welt will be used Attack Potency: 30.453235 ZettaFOE, Varies up to Multiverse level+ with Star of Eden, Varies up to High Complex Multiverse level Environmental Damage with Singularity Rebuild Durability: 30.453235 ZettaFOE, higher with Imaginary...
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Wait a minute. Why DBS Beerus isn't upscaled from Arale(https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Arale_Norimaki_(Dr._Slump)#Late_&_Post_Dr._Slump)? He is narratively much stronger than her as Goku said she can do nothing against him. He easily tagged her even tho she has immesurable speeds and could easily overpower her abilities, which includes plot manipulation which would upscale Beerus to high levels. Also it would upscale his LS to immesurable level
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No its not includes Plot Manipulation
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Why? Goku said her stuf(abilities) doesn't work on Beerus. Why wouldn't it include her strongest haxes? Or maybe Goku said:"Your toon force doesn't work on him, but if you use your 6D plot manipulation he is cooked!"
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You assume Goku is correct about it... or that he knows how far Arale's abilities go, reminder that the Author himself, the one that is factually above Beerus as the one writting the story he is in, protects her... therefore Beerus can't really get rid of her, the Author will just... draw her again
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Why Goku isn't right? He just fought her and saw what she can do. And the Author(Toriyama) case doesn't matter as even Kid Goku could go against him(Goku turned oozaru even tho Author said he wasn't writting it)
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Why WOULD he be right? You have to prove he knows enough about Arale to know EVERY HAX she has wouldn't be enough
Did you... did you ever READ Dr.Slug? She didn't do even 1/8 of what she could do... all Goku knows is that, powerwise, she is as strong as him... he knows NOTHING about where she comes from, what she can do, or how IMMORTAL she truly is
Yeah... does Beerus have the same feat? If not... I wouldn't argue she has PLOT MANIP RESIST at all, that is exclusive to Oozaru goku cuz.... he's the one who did it... specially since ToriBot is stated to be the SUPREME DEITY in the Dragon Ball universe
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Goku is a genius, he could understand his opponent from a battle alone, especially since he met her before. Beerus was said to be the strongest in the entire universe 7(except Whis) by Kaio-sama(literall god), he was said to be the guy who transcends everyone before him in the franchise(Arale appeared before in DB):全てを超越する存在がいた―。Comes A Being That Transcends ALL―." And his battle with Goku was stated to be the most powerfull battle of all time(there was several times when Arale lost and was saved by enraged Tsukutsun, who was even stronger than her).
Do we include Yamcha reborn manga, where Beerus and Champa played in isekai and it appered on the plot?
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Guys, even if Goku is a fighting genius, that logic simply doesn't apply to Arale. It's pretty much the same as how he still doesn't fully grasp the true scale of power that the Angels and Gods in the series possess.
What's crucial here is that even Tori-bot—who is literally the author and the supreme ruler of everything doesn't even know the full extent of Arale's power."
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Tori-bot wasn't even able to control Kid Goku's actions, so can't be a case here. If we look at the scene, narratively Beerus was implied to be above Arale, being able to one-shot her. Music, choreography, the way Beerus hakaied professor from Doctor Slump, etc. Everything just tells you about that Beerus is on another level
GodSinBad2280
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When was it ever shown that Tori-bot couldn't control Goku? And why would that be a reason for Goku to understand the power of Arale and Beerus? Just because he is a fighting genius doesn't mean he understands the nature and power of every single character in the Verse.
That is pure speculation without any evidence whatsoever. Furthermore, the fact that he erased Dr. Mashirito is not proof that he can erase Arale. You are mistaken about many things.
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Tori-Bot controls the entire future and the plot; no one is above him. All of Arale's actions are because he wrote them to allow her to do them.
Furthermore, Tori-Bot threatened to kill Vegeta
Furthermore, Tori-Bot threatened to kill Vegeta
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Tori-Bot controls the entire future and the plot; no one is above him. All of Arale's actions are because he wrote them to allow her to do them.
Furthermore, Tori-Bot threatened to kill Vegeta
He's pretty wierd at this point tbf
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It's not a speculation. That's how the scene was. Arale couldn't do a thing to Beerus and was almost one-shoted. It's supported by the fact Beerus was stated to be stronger than anyone before him in DB anime many times(including Arale) and that Arale was stated to be just COMPARABLE to Goku(https://en.dragon-ball-official.com/news/01_2381.html), so vica verse Goku is comparable to Arale(including all her best haxes)
GodSinBad2280
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You’ve got it all wrong. Saying Beerus is stronger than Arale is just Goku’s pure speculation, and the staff just kept recycling that line. It doesn’t mean Beerus is actually stronger, and you can’t just take Goku’s word for it.
Besides, Hax ≠ Stats. Arale’s stats fluctuate constantly and change every single episode. The Arale we see in each episode doesn't have the same physical strength all the time. So, Goku can’t use that to scale himself to her level, especially since what we see is a huge contradiction between DBS and Classic DB. On top of that, it’s never stated that Arale's Hax & Abilities are equal to Goku's. Your info is completely outdated and totally contradicts itself.
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I'm not just taking Goku's words as true. I'm using other statements that they Beerus is much stronger than anyone in DB anime before him. You can't denie those statements as it would be completely biased
Arale was able to easily lift the manga pages that contain DB cosmology, so she scales to cosmology anyway with pure stats alone.
Bro, then what are you doing in this place? Do I need to remind you that all characters in all of fiction rely on their strenght purely on authors work and writing? Author can make many feats and statements for one character, but this character wouldn't display the same level of strenght in feats every episode, so by your logic we can't scale at all.
Like what contradictions? She was always portaied as a power house
Are you seriously gonna agrue with official site? Like, seriously, it was stated that Arale is comparable to Goku in power and we know that she can lift the entire DB cosmology. But you still say Goku isn't comparable to her...bruh
GodSinBad2280
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I think you need to completely re evaluate your understanding of Arale's abilities. The fact that Arale can literally lift a manga page comes from her Plot Manipulation and Toon Force, not because her physical stats increased. It is her Hax that allows her to pull off such feats.
And another thing, the official website only scales his raw strength. Back in Classic DB when Goku and Arale met, he was talking about pure physical stats, not Hax & Abilities. Like I said, those lines hyping up Beerus's power are just Goku’s words that the staff kept recycling. It’s not an actual confirmation that Beerus is stronger. You should just give it a rest, buddy.
GodSinBad2280
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Bottom line is, you really need to go back and read Dr. Slump properly. This whole argument doesn't help you at all if you’re trying to upscale Beerus. Honestly, it might even do more harm than good for your case.
Nullflowerblush
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I can't figure whether it's anything significant, but after Piccolo exits the Room of Spirit and Time and openly doubts he'd be strong enough to fight Cell to Goku even then, Goku agrees with him ("Well... duh."), and Future Trunks appears to be taken aback by his answer. I dunno if he was surprised by the way Goku responded, or if he was genuinely shocked by the idea that Piccolo wasn't as powerful as Cell was, which could imply either Piccolo had at the very least surpassed Perfect Cell's initial level or Trunks is stupid. That's equally as valid.
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Well...maybe? When Goku showed half of his full power to Karin and asked if he could defeat pre Cell games Cell, Karin said he couldn't. But when Goku got stronger than Trunks in Grade 3 with sheer ki, Cell was egual to him, even tho pre game Cell was weaker than Grade 3 Trunks in sheer ki
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W Brazil
Brazil played too well.
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And it's gonna get better
