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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

Gamin_Yoon23 said:
No. Unless they’re clearly extrapolated to that extent then it shouldn’t be equated. Shared worldview isn’t all encompassing in terms of equalising elements from varied continuities.
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Why not? It's either shared or not, there is no between logically. The verse is connected or not
Gamin_Yoon23 said:
We still need to be mindful when making these judgements. God Ki in mainline isn’t extrapolated to the extent of Games’ verse, nor is evil Ki. The only scenario where I could see such a thing being allowed is assuming a statement comes through clarifying such. DBH gets the full benefits due to its composition. Not vice versa.
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Okay, like what statement? You want a character to say what?
 
would yall say that its pretty much implied that Frieza had the flight speed to escape namek explosion by just flying away?

https://imgchest.com/p/o24aorrreyl (specially Scan 6 where even goku says that a cut in half frieza could escape from the explosion due to he being able to survive in space)

doing a calc of it, with an about 2 minutes timeframe would give some good flight speed, i could assume Frieza could get outside of Namek exosphere, however its accepted that Namek is over 600x the size of earth, how do i assume distance to exosphere in such large planets?
 
Nullflowerblush said:
Yes. By Dodoria. The statement was ignored in the original thread accepting Namek as star-sized.
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Well, we never saw a statement and size of an "average size" planet or something like it, only "small" or "not so big" ones. It can mean that Namek is a small size planet for DB universe, not ours
 
Mgebrat282 said:
Well, we never saw a statement and size of an "average size" planet or something like it, only "small" or "not so big" ones. It can mean that Namek is a small size planet for DB universe, not ours
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The Super Dragon Balls have a diameter of 37,196.2204 km, which the Wiki currently accepts as being the size of average planets, because the Super Dragon Balls are "almost the size of a planet". Earth only has a diameter of 12,742 km and is, thus, appropriately described as "a small planet". Therefore, considering Namek is "not so big", the planet being several times larger than the sun is highly unlikely.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
The Super Dragon Balls have a diameter of 37,196.2204 km, which the Wiki currently accepts as being the size of average planets, because the Super Dragon Balls are "almost the size of a planet". Earth only has a diameter of 12,742 km and is, thus, appropriately described as "a small planet". Therefore, considering Namek is "not so big", the planet being several times larger than the sun is highly unlikely.
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We don't know the difference between "almost the size" "small planet" and "not so big" for dragonball planets, so it can be any big.
 
KingTempest said:
not at all tbh
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To what? About Frieza not being able to escape Namek explosion by flying away? Why isn Goku's statement valid, or Frieza implying that Goku could also fly away for Namek, just that he would die in space?

As later scans show, Frieza also knew his spaceship was destroyed by Vegeta, so by eventually leaving Namek he wasn't thinking of searching for a spaceship, flying away by himself
 
Nullflowerblush said:
The Super Dragon Balls have a diameter of 37,196.2204 km, which the Wiki currently accepts as being the size of average planets, because the Super Dragon Balls are "almost the size of a planet". Earth only has a diameter of 12,742 km and is, thus, appropriately described as "a small planet". Therefore, considering Namek is "not so big", the planet being several times larger than the sun is highly unlikely.
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I forgot the super dragon balls are a thing lmfao
 
StrymULTRA said:
"Shaping reality" is not enough for it being a concept, we have a page called "Metaphysical Aspects" as a way to avoid to claim that anything that vaguely is at the basis of existence a concept.
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Look at the links I sent above, where it says that space and time are concepts; I'm not just saying that.
 
Breadbear83 said:
To what? About Frieza not being able to escape Namek explosion by flying away? Why isn Goku's statement valid, or Frieza implying that Goku could also fly away for Namek, just that he would die in space?

As later scans show, Frieza also knew his spaceship was destroyed by Vegeta, so by eventually leaving Namek he wasn't thinking of searching for a spaceship, flying away by himself
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The whole plotline was that he was trying to kill goku before it exploded and evacuate before it exploded, and that he couldn't escape the blast which is why he was scared of it and mitigated its yield
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
Look at the links I sent above, where it says that space and time are concepts; I'm not just saying that.
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It only talks about the general idea of space and time, not that they're reality-shaping concepts like Dialga and Palkia.

A being with no soul would obviously lack the concept of one, but does that make souls Type 1 concepts? Obv not.
 
KingTempest said:
The whole plotline was that he was trying to kill goku before it exploded and evacuate before it exploded, and that he couldn't escape the blast which is why he was scared of it and mitigated its yield
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Yeah, the plotline was he trying to kill Goku before it exploded, but with "evacuate" wdym? Both Frieza and Goku say about Frieza wanting to "getting out of this planet"

He mitigated the blast because he was scared of getting in the explosion, but made it so there would be 5 minutes to beat Goku and then leave Namek

And Frieza points out to Goku that his spaceship was destroyed by Vegeta (talking about Goku having no way to escape), so Frieza wasnt taking about looking for a spaceship for himself

Lastly, Goku says that as Frieza said to be able to survive the vacuum of space, he should escape from the explosion, this obviously is by flying, else it makes no sense (Frieza also points out to Goku that he won't survive the vacuum of space when pointing out there's no spaceship, as if Goku can also fly away but wouldn't survive)

All that is said in the link I shared earlier: https://imgchest.com/p/o24aorrreyl
 
Breadbear83 said:
Yeah, the plotline was he trying to kill Goku before it exploded, but with "evacuate" wdym? Both Frieza and Goku say about Frieza wanting to "getting out of this planet"

He mitigated the blast because he was scared of getting in the explosion, but made it so there would be 5 minutes to beat Goku and then leave Namek

And Frieza points out to Goku that his spaceship was destroyed by Vegeta (talking about Goku having no way to escape), so Frieza wasnt taking about looking for a spaceship for himself

Lastly, Goku says that as Frieza said to be able to survive the vacuum of space, he should escape from the explosion, this obviously is by flying, else it makes no sense (Frieza also points out to Goku that he won't survive the vacuum of space when pointing out there's no spaceship, as if Goku can also fly away but wouldn't survive)

All that is said in the link I shared earlier: https://imgchest.com/p/o24aorrreyl
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Frieza wasn't actually that scared. Goku called Frieza out on this. The whole "holding back too much" shit was an excuse he made because he couldn't admit to himself that he actually wanted to go all out and have a fight with Goku. So it's more like Frieza wasn't really about taking the easy way out. In the end it was just insurance so he'd win either way.
 
TiltedFN said:
Frieza wasn't actually that scared. Goku called Frieza out on this. The whole "holding back too much" shit was an excuse he made because he couldn't admit to himself that he actually wanted to go all out and have a fight with Goku. So it's more like Frieza wasn't really about taking the easy way out. In the end it was just insurance so he'd win either way.
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Even if what you say may be true, even Goku was saying that as Frieza can survive in outer space, he could leave the planet by himself (and Frieza implying Goku could too, but that he would die in space) this is an hypothetical feat (like cells solar system, or that garlick jr feat) it's just that in the actual story Frieza didn't beat Goku to start trying to leave the planet
 
Breadbear83 said:
Even if what you say may be true, even Goku was saying that as Frieza can survive in outer space, he could leave the planet by himself (and Frieza implying Goku could too, but that he would die in space) this is an hypothetical feat (like cells solar system, or that garlick jr feat) it's just that in the actual story Frieza didn't beat Goku to start trying to leave the planet
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I agree. Was just pointing that out.
 
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