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SSJ3 Goku (Manga) vs Superman (New 52)| 0-0-0

• SBA • Speed Equalized • Goku is (> 1.053 KiloFoe) • Superman is (> 2.747 KiloFoe) Goku: Superman: Inconclusive:

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[SwordLegendz01]

DBS Anime: Twin Androids Profile Split Overhaul & Other Stuff

I'm back with the outdated profile split on the current wiki. I'm proposing a split for Android 17 and 18 because the wiki currently has both manga and anime content, which needs to be addressed ASAP. So, this is the sandbox for both characters. Yeah, I haven't finished the notable techniques...

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[LegendariumOfLies]

We are going back to the Cell Solar System Discussion:

The Boys Verse Debunk: Calc Issue

So, this calculation was used to upgrade the Boys verse using a equation from this thread. However, one of the CGM explicitly said that new formula should only be used for mechanical scientific nukes - NOT explosions from substances analogous to nuclear weapons. So, no the new equation cannot...

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[Fezzih_007]

Two wrongs don't make a right. If you believe Cell and DB's Solar System ratings are outliers feel free to make a CRT to debunk it.

You jest.

The person would just get jumped by everyone here.

 

[Huesito88]

We are going back to the Cell Solar System Discussion:

The Boys Verse Debunk: Calc Issue

So, this calculation was used to upgrade the Boys verse using a equation from this thread. However, one of the CGM explicitly said that new formula should only be used for mechanical scientific nukes - NOT explosions from substances analogous to nuclear weapons. So, no the new equation cannot...

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In 2026 huh....

 

[Gp972]

I Made a Thread

And this is to go Even Further Beyond!(Dragon Ball Classic, Z Super AP + Speed Upgrade and revamp)

This will be an improvement on these two blogs, in addition to improving the multiplier for Super Saiyan God(And therefore of the ssjb, ssjbe and uio) First the Multipliers: SSJG would go from x160,000 to 20 Million SSJB would go from x8 million to x1 Billion SSJBE would go from x160 Million...

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[Sus]

meow

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

In 2026 huh....

We never left it. Remember that people still don't believe Roshi blew up the moon

 

[Qurbonboev]

DCEU Superman vs Toei Goku

Post-Resurrection Superman is used Beginning of Z Son Goku is used Location is ToP Arena Distance is 100 meters Speed is equalized AP and Dura: 2.103 Quettatons LS: 1.61 billion tons AP and Dura: 4.125 Quettatons LS: Unknown Kal-El: Kakarot: Incon:

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[Eden5Zeroo]

It seems Dragonball is a show where you have to pay more attention. I used to think Ultra Instinct was an asspull and come Out of nowhere XD

but this comment changed my mind

What Mr. Popo taught Goku in the beginning was how to think quickly while remaining calm simultaneously. Technically .... Goku has been working toward UI since he was a kid without even realizing it. In the episode where kid Goku fights a fake version of himself, he stands still, closes his eyes, and takes a deep breath right before his opponent strikes, dodging just like he does with UI. Later in Super, Goku spends more time meditating and calming his mind than doing intensive physical training like Vegeta. Chi-Chi even complains that he is acting strange, and Goku hints there is a specific reason for his new training. Whis clearly knows what is happening but hides it from Vegeta, and even Gohan suggests that Goku has discovered a new method. A big clue appears when Bulma tries to punch Goku and he dodges it like UI (pretty weird for in character Goku), which Goten says is very unusual for him.

The entire anime details Gokus path to this godly power. He uses a fraction of it for a second against Beerus which Beerus notices, since he was ready to kill Goku with said blow ... and again to fight Hits time-skip. This also connects back to the ginyu crew saga. When weirdo Ginyu took Gokus body, it was weak because it lacked Gokus mind. But by the time Zamasu steals his body, Goku has trained so much that his body has muscle memory for god ki. Goku Black inherits techniques like IT and the kameha immediately because the body is so fine tuned for battle. Gokus instinct and battle lust were so strong that they even changed Zamasus personality, making him stop caring about immortality. The whole series was setting up the idea that Gokus body was learning to fight on autopilot ... since episode 5 or some shit.

UI is just peak

 

[BoastJr]

UNOFFICIAL VSBW AURA FARMING TOURNAMENT !

We’re introducing a tournament inspired by the UEFA Champions League — but instead of football, this is pure aura competition. Characters face off in matches where the only thing that matters is who delivers the better aura moments. No scaling. No shortcuts. Just arguments. At the end, only...

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[Gp972]

It seems Dragonball is a show where you have to pay more attention. I used to think Ultra Instinct was an asspull and come Out of nowhere XD

but this comment changed my mind

That's the main reason why people think it's poorly written; seeing it is not the same as paying attention.

 

[Sus]

We never left it. Remember that people still don't believe Roshi blew up the moon

more so argued it was an outlier, not that it literally didn't happen

in all honesty, i also thought it was an outlier until the saiyan saga

 

[Eden5Zeroo]

That's the main reason why people think it's poorly written; seeing it is not the same as paying attention.

Can you tell me which are the best hand to Hand feats that dont involve hax or powers? I hate watching a show just for the feats XD usually only do that on the second or third watch Also THe profiles here have way too much information, which makes them confusing so sime Help would be nice

Just wanna help cuz the Boys Stream doesnt seem to work right now

 

[Gp972]

Can you tell me which are the best hand to Hand feats that dont involve hax or powers? I hate watching a show just for the feats XD usually only do that on the second or third watch Also THe profiles here have way too much information, which makes them confusing so sime Help would be nice

Just wanna help cuz the Boys Stream doesnt seem to work right now

Goku As a child, he was able to beat martial artists on such a level as Grandpa Gohan, who was stated to be an unparalleled master in all martial arts. In his battle with Master Roshi, he copied his Drunken Fist style to adapt to it and created his own style known as the "Crazy Fist" in response

Goku Was able to go toe to toe with Cell, a being created by the genius scientist Dr. Gero to be the ultimate warrior, spending 20 years taking the DNA and footage of every fighter on earth and on Namek, copying their techniques, their mannerisms, and their skills to create him, including Goku himself, also having knowledge on how he approaches battle as well.

 

[Gp972]

We never left it. Remember that people still don't believe Roshi blew up the moon

Some people think Goku isn't even planet level

 

[Eden5Zeroo]

Goku As a child, he was able to beat martial artists on such a level as Grandpa Gohan, who was stated to be an unparalleled master in all martial arts. In his battle with Master Roshi, he copied his Drunken Fist style to adapt to it and created his own style known as the "Crazy Fist" in response

Goku Was able to go toe to toe with Cell, a being created by the genius scientist Dr. Gero to be the ultimate warrior, spending 20 years taking the DNA and footage of every fighter on earth and on Namek, copying their techniques, their mannerisms, and their skills to create him, including Goku himself, also having knowledge on how he approaches battle as well.

Thx!! So why the hell was the garou thread in fun and Games even created?

Me guess the only thing hes better at is prediction feats. Take the fight against the heroes, for example. That was more of a physical feat, scaling to Atomic Samurais students dodging the hairs. Its not that impressive, its more of a skill/speed feat. Im even ignoring the "malicious intent" aspect which makes it super telepgrhaped xd

Garous best pure skill feat was predicting Saitama. Unless Goku has something similar or even better like a Future sight type of prediction, he wont land a single blow on Garou

 

[Gp972]

Thx!! So why the hell was the garou thread in fun and Games even created?

Me guess the only thing hes better at is prediction feats. Take the fight against the heroes, for example. That was more of a physical feat, scaling to Atomic Samurais students dodging the hairs. Its not that impressive, its more of a skill/speed feat. Im even ignoring the "malicious intent" aspect which makes it super telepgrhaped xd

Garous best pure skill feat was predicting Saitama. Unless Goku has something similar or even better like a Future sight type of prediction, he wont land a single blow on Garou

Capable of analyzing and copying Beerus' fighting style, allowing him to match Beerus' attacks and cancel out the shockwaves that threatened the universe. Later in Super, before adapting to Hit's Time-Skip, he was able to predict the movements he'd make in the 0.1 seconds of skipped time and react properly, beating a technique that for over 1000 years was completely unstoppable, even as Hit was constantly improving said technique in battle. Immediately figured out how to use a Ki blast to resurrect himself after he was killed by Hit

Goku mastered Ultra Instinct, a technique even the Gods of Destruction have deemed a difficult task, with none of them stating to have mastered it, including Beerus, despite being hundreds of millions of years older with experience as a God of Destruction. He also had performed such a feat in less than 48 minutes and is the only mortal in all 12 universes to have mastered the technique. He can rely purely on his muscle memory and something "beyond" instinct to fight, no longer needing to consciously think to do so while being more serious in this form. In all of Universe 7, he is among the most skilled warriors to exist, superior to master martial artists such as Master Roshi, Piccolo, the Kais, and only rivaled by Vegeta, being labeled as one of the only few who can entertain Beerus, the God of Destruction of Universe 7. Among all 12 universes, he is one of if not the most skilled fighter, superior to many other master-level warriors and beings thousands up to millions of years older than him, being stated to have surpassed the gods. Was able to fight Broly after he adapted to Super Saiyan God Vegeta with only Super Saiyan, being able to keep up through sheer skill despite the power difference)

 

[Eden5Zeroo]

Okay, so I googled it a bit, and it seems like Goku vs that purple guy is the best pure hand-to-hand combat Goku has. Now the comment i saw on comicvine makes more sense. I didnt understand what he meant by Hit. Hit is actually the name of that purple guy XD



Gokus spatial awarness is craaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy like holy hell. Dragonball feats and hax dont seem that impressive or flashy at the beginning, but they are much crazier once you look deeper into them

 

[Gp972]

Okay, so I googled it a bit, and it seems like Goku vs that purple guy is the best pure hand-to-hand combat Goku has. Now the comment i saw on comicvine makes more sense. I didnt understand what he meant by Hit. Hit is actually the name of that purple guy XD



Gokus spatial awarness is craaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy like holy hell. Dragonball feats and hax dont seem that impressive or flashy at the beginning, but they are much crazier once you look deeper into them

Yes, and his intelligence is no slouch either; I mean, he passed a without even knowing anything.

 

[Eden5Zeroo]

Yes, and his intelligence is no slouch either; I mean, he passed a without even knowing anything.

Goku "future Sight" skill is so much more impressive compared to the ones ive read. Me not sure if he is lying, because I just watched the anime fight. While its still impressive, a few things he mentioned seem to be missing. However, Ive debated him before when I was defending GoH, and he actually changed my view of the Mori Dan vs. Mujin fight in a negative way when it comes to pure skill. I dont really use it anymore. Hes usually pretty objective.

Or maybe i have to rewatch that fight? Idk maybe im blind XD ...

Thats why he dominates Garou. Garous best feats are many layers below future sight. Actually, thinking about it, its almost an anti-feat for Garou that he needs so many specific "tells" just to predict your next move XDD

 

[Gp972]

Goku "future Sight" skill is so much more impressive compared to the ones ive read. Me not sure if he is lying, because I just watched the anime fight. While its still impressive, a few things he mentioned seem to be missing. However, Ive debated him before when I was defending GoH, and he actually changed my view of the Mori Dan vs. Mujin fight in a negative way when it comes to pure skill. I dont really use it anymore. Hes usually pretty objective.

Or maybe i have to rewatch that fight? Idk maybe im blind XD ...

Thats why he dominates Garou. Garous best feats are many layers below future sight. Actually, thinking about it, its almost an anti-feat for Garou that he needs so many specific "tells" just to predict your next move XDD

In fact, in the anime even King Kai scolds him for forcing his mind to predict Hit

 

[Eden5Zeroo]

In fact, in the anime even King Kai scolds him for forcing his mind to predict Hit

omg im so dumb XD ... I didnt realize the manga and anime were so different. I literally rewatched the anime fight in slow motion and still couldnt see half of that stuff. Then I checked the manga because the video wasnt working, and I see now hes talking about the manga version.

The anime is a good feat for skill and powerscaling, but the manga is way better in terms of pure skill. Gokus brain is like a goddamn supercomputer.

What Goku basically did is like an expert debater who knows everything about dragonball and going up against someone who knows next to nothing about battleboarding and dragonball. The number of disadvantages he had and even put himself in, is what makes this feat so impressive. That guy really cooked

 

[Gp972]

I Made a Thread

And this is to go Even Further Beyond!(Dragon Ball Classic, Z Super AP + Speed Upgrade and revamp)

This will be an improvement on these two blogs, in addition to improving the multiplier for Super Saiyan God(And therefore of the ssjb, ssjbe and uio) First the Multipliers: SSJG would go from x160,000 to 20 Million SSJB would go from x8 million to x1 Billion SSJBE would go from x160 Million...

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Updated

 

[RoninSlayer200]

Zeno's existence erasure resistance removal

Hi, this is my first CRT, so please try to be gentle. It's a very minor CRT which not influences where character scales. Currently in Zeno's profile there is existence erasure listed in his resistances. The justification for it is: Existence Erasure, Soul Destruction & Space-Time Erasure...

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@LuffyRuffy46307 They tryna nuke Zeno EE resistance.

 

[Gp972]

I Made a Thread

And this is to go Even Further Beyond!(Dragon Ball Classic, Z Super AP + Speed Upgrade and revamp)

This will be an improvement on these two blogs, in addition to improving the multiplier for Super Saiyan God(And therefore of the ssjb, ssjbe and uio) First the Multipliers: SSJG would go from x160,000 to 20 Million SSJB would go from x8 million to x1 Billion SSJBE would go from x160 Million...

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@TiltedFN mind having your thoughts on this?

 

[Gp972]

What do you think of this CRT I want to make? I think it's pretty straightforward.

So Goku is listed as a genius combatatan in classic and Z, but in DBZ he's listed as an extraordinary genius combatant

Extraordinary Genius pague says:

Extraordinary Genius: Individuals whose knowledge spreads over multiple fields of science and who vastly surpass the real world's upper human limits

And Goku Intelligent justification is

Goku is a master of prodigal skill when it comes to martial arts, with years of experience fighting against powerful opponents with a plethora of abilities. As a child, he was able to beat martial artists on such a level as Grandpa Gohan, who was stated to be an unparalleled master in all martial arts. In his battle with Master Roshi, he copied his Drunken Fist style to adapt to it and created his own style known as the "Crazy Fist" in response. His skill when it comes to combat and the usage of Ki allows him to replicate other Ki-based techniques after seeing them once

The fact that it would be impossible for a human to be a master of all martial arts , learn something just by watching and creating a new style mid combat, makes it clear that Goku is far beyond human limits in terms of Combat Intelligence

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Pretty sure combat intelligence tiers were supposed to be deleted.

 

[Mgebrat282]

Pretty sure combat intelligence tiers were supposed to be deleted.

Why thou? Average int, scince int and combat int are entirely different things. You can think and be infinitly much smarter than a supercomputer but be worse in combat than an martial arts master and act worse in a fight than him(stats equal).

 

[BoastJr]

Aura Farming Tournament Announcement

Follow up to this thread https://vsbattles.com/threads/unofficial-vsbw-aura-farming-tournament.189361/ RankCharacterMatches PlayedWinsDrawsLossesGoalsGoal DifferencePoints 1Dante Sparda110010103 2Kratos110010103 3Kevin Kaslana110010103 4Ryuga1100993 5Albert Wesker1100773 6Jotaro Kujo1100773...

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New Thread for competition and matchup day

 

[Gp972]

Official account of the Dragon Ball anime (@DB_anime_info)

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“Super Start Trailer” scene cuts released
Now available

Anime “#Dragon Ball Super – Beerus”

#AJ2026

Also being shown on the “giant screen” at the Toei Animation booth
We look forward to your visit!

▼ The “Super Start Trailer” is now available on YouTube.

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Official account of the Dragon Ball anime (@DB_anime_info)

\

“Super Start Trailer” scene cuts released
Now available

Anime “#Dragon Ball Super – Beerus”

#AJ2026

Also being shown on the “giant screen” at the Toei Animation booth
We look forward to your visit!

▼ The “Super Start Trailer” is now available on YouTube.

Does anyone know about this?

 

[Gp972]

 

[Eden5Zeroo]

I only know basic grammar and how the language works in general with stuff like katakana, hiragana, kanji, onyomi, kunyomi, radical etc. because my sis and dad lives there and is a coach (its sooo complicaed cus sponsor system was abused, so its much stricter nowadays wtf)

From what me have understood, toei is inviting fans to animejapan 2026 to celebrate the new trailer and first visuals of the graphically remastered @ toei booth

On my way too and didnt feel it would hit me that hard due Internet/WhatsApp existing ... Quite busy but am enjoying the last strength/conditioning camps and tournaments with my team and the different gyms i train at. Gonna miss the "wars" with my coaches XD and me wanting a bigger, more refined belt system, because it definitely helps with micro skills and fine tuning the fundamentals... but I also understand how short a humans lifespan is and how they have to make money with casuals. Guys who are competitors at heart know what im talking about. But thats life.

If I make it there in time and im still active on here, i will upload some photos from that event

As for soccer ... hope its not as bad as i have heard. Definitely gonna try the local clubs for a trial

 

[Mgebrat282]

Please, tell somebody from calc group to evaluate my calc(https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Mgebrat282/Planet_Vegeta_destruction)

 

[Overvoid69]

Please, tell somebody from calc group to evaluate my calc(https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Mgebrat282/Planet_Vegeta_destruction)

Somone already commented on it no?

 

[Kellex]

Y'all might wanna help ya boy Tien, he's getting jumped lol.

5-B Planet Tiersetter Tournament Semi Finals Match 2: Tien Shinhan vs Uzi Doorman

The Second Beginning Of The End. Arena Via SBA, Central Park. Starting Distance will be based on SBA. In this case 4 kilometers due to both combatants having planetary attacks. Match Conditions Speed is equalized by default, but may remain unequalized if one character can mitigate the...

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[Mgebrat282]

Somone already commented on it no?

He's not even in calc group

 

[Overvoid69]

Dragon Ball Manga CRT, Cell Saga: Base Saiyans Too Strong?

Introduction This crt will aim to add 2 feats for the saiyans in the cell saga: Base Future Gohan scaling above Namek God Tiers Base Epilogue Future Trunks above Imperfect Cell and the future cyborgs Me writing down the new scaling chain that would need to be added for the Manga Speed and AP...

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DB Inverse upscale thread

 

[ProudLearner]

Is it possible to create a Power Pole and Nimbus Cloud page?

 

[Mgebrat282]

Is it possible to create a Power Pole and Nimbus Cloud page?

Why not?