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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
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Supersonicmaker
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Mbpoops
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Mbpoops
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boi im playing 4.0 rn
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So super late to this discussion, but as someone who thinks the Super manga before Moro was mid at best, Moro is ******* excellent and it's crazy hearing anyone say otherwise
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Bro thought it was ass cuz Moro arc didn't have any crazy 2-C narrative
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he doesn't know gng
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Opponent, minor mistake.
Buu could destroy an Afterlife(since he was able to destroy an entire universe which contains it), also he was going to destroy Vegeta, who was a soul
I can throw an ant for a long distance = I have BFR in IRL
In translation I read he said "cease to existe", which can be interpritated by many ways. Also isn't it Viz? They are garbageYou're just flat-out wrong on this
By self exploading and which wasn't shown...
And not mentioning moments where Goku is amused by planet destruction, when Granola's strenght was shown by...wall lvl feats on just some weak characters..., etc
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It just means the Secret of egoism is an easier technique to do then in anime. In anime he was specifically better as a fighter, when in manga he was thinking nothing more than just a pure strenght
He remembered them only after Muten Roshi said about them, before that he didn't even think about them, which contradicts original manga entirly, when in anime there wasn't such a thing. You know why? Because in anime he didn't forget about what he learn, which makes him a better character and fighter.
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He did destroy a mountain, shown a feat better than entire Moro and Granola arcs pulled out
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Goku in Raditz arc: "The strongest isn't always wins the fight"
Goku in DBS manga:"I nEEd MoRe PoWEr!!!"
Goku in DBS manga:"I nEEd MoRe PoWEr!!!"
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Cmon bro, you can't be seriousHe did destroy a mountain, shown a feat better than entire Moro and Granola arcs pulled out
I wonder why an event that would've killed every important character of the series and end up all possible plots wasn't shown, huh...
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https://media.**********.net/attachments/1014008897943650334/1026614690324942888/image0.png?ex=6991992f&is=699047af&hm=671c786d48804dccfafc5c68bc65da7580dc23ff1cf1fbcd18cfbd39c993841b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
Like this?
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Featless shockwave that didn't even damaged humans on the Earth. Even the real atomic bomb(Tsar Bomb) could create a shockwave that travel 3 times around the curvature of the Earth. So it's not a significant feat
Namek Dragonballs:
And what do you mean would've killed? Do you think Goku and others would die from galaxy lvl explosion or can't escape it?
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Discord CDNs are blocked on the wiki.
Like this?
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That's from my discord only, but okay
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What I am saying is that linking images from Discord won't work here.
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最新シリーズは、かつてのすべてを「超」えていく!!!Saishin shirīzu wa, katsute no subete o “chō” ete iku!!!“The latest series surpasses everything that came before!!!”
DBS Goku>Every other Goku before
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"Everything I don't like is featless"
Yeah, and pretty sure said bomb also could cause the Mountain Level feat you claim is "above anything from Moro and Granolah Saga". So what's your point?
I wonder who'll use the Namek Dragon Balls to resurrect him when every Z fighter would've died, huh.
Not to mention that, from what I've heard, translations seem to refer to every galaxy instead of just their galaxy (which could also refer to the galaxy quadrant, idk since I don't know much about Japanese tho), thus destroying the Namek Dragon Balls too.
Destroying a galaxy ≠ Galaxy Level explosion. You're talking about an explosion with the full energy of a being on the level of MUI that encompasses the whole galaxy, if not the whole universe.
The only ones that have enough Ki to survive that'd be Goku and Vegeta, who would die anyway in the vaccuum of space. So, yeah, everyone would've been killed. I don't know why you even doubt about that.
The only one who could would be Goku with IT, and Goku was fighting Moro alongside everyone else to protect Earth and losing all their stamina due to energy absorption. So, obviously nah.
Hell, even if you were right and Moro and Granolah arc didn't have good feats, Cell Saga also doesn't have Planet Level feats, the best feat being a statement of Cell wanting to destroy the whole Solar System (something "Featless" under your standards), I guess Cell Saga is also shit because it doesn't have flashy lights and big boom booms.
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Strawman fallacy. This shockwave is objectivly featless in terms of destruction.
Tsar bomb couldn't destroy a mountain or create such a big explosion, it was only 50 megatons
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That's a false translation, he just said about a galaxy, not every galaxy.
"Dying from explosion that destroyed only a galaxy isn't dying from explosion that could destroy only one galaxy."
Goku've shown that he can survive in a timeless and spaceless void(after Zeno destroyed timeline). And what about Piccolo and Gohan?
Cell have destroyed many islands and Vegeta's final flash was also pretty good.
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You don't need a feat to cause destruction for it to scale to a certain tier.
Merely shaking something already produces a big amount of energy, or sending a shockwave strong enough to cover a certain area. Just because there aren't big boom booms it doesn't mean it's featless as you claim.
So... you think that what should've happened in the Moro saga was that everyone died and a character with minor to no relevance just happened to save them? That's a worse plot than the end of Zamasu arc, bruh.
Correction: An explosion that would destroy (not destroyed) a galaxy isn't only galaxy level when there are feats that put it higher than that.
Yeah, and Vegeta claimed they can't go to outer space in the very Moro Saga.
Unless for some reason you think a beaten up Piccolo from Moro saga could withstand a full power explosion from a character at the level of MUI, he'd die, yeah.
Gohan is partially human and partially saiyan, races which can't survive on space.
Which is as meaningless as the Moro and Granolah Saga feats compared to the level they are at.
And so was the shockwave of a punch from MUI Goku.
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Hmm
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Shaking is a pretty weak feat and creating a shockwave to cover an entire planet isn't a big as it sounds like(even a nuclear bomb can do it). Btw he didn't shook the Earth
Or that all major characters endure this explosion and survive, then use Namek dragonballs
Destroying a galaxy is a bigger thing than destroying a galaxy? Didn't know that
Feats/statements>character's opinion
MUI lvl character is galaxy lvl? Because an explosion was just galaxy lvl
Show me atleast one feat from Granolah arcs that is atleast mountain lvl
City lvl at best, Vegeta's final flash was much better
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Theres a whole blog for dragon ball shaking scaling btw
How will they survive in the vacuum of space..? Also the namekian dragonballs were on cooldown from moro
Missed his entire point
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Make a crt to nuke the dbs manga atp if ur gonna say nothing scales cause theres barely any dc feats
How did you come to this conclusion
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They should have enourmous speed, so they could just travel to another planet. Moro wouldn't come to Namek baceuase he's dead, so they could just wait
BoG manga STATEMENT(there was no feat) was accepted but Frieza's statementS weren't
It's just a dust, they didn't destroy a thing(not even city lvl feat)
Because Tsar Bomb created a shockwave that travel 3 times around the Earth, when Goku created a shockwave that traveled only 1 time
Vegeta's final flash was much better
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Travel to another planet.. then what? They would still have to wait a year to get the dragon balls and also they would die in the vacuum of space before they reached a new planet
“I dont like this feat so it doesnt count”BoG manga STATEMENT(there was no feat) was accepted but Frieza's statementS weren't
What do you think caused that dust..? And do you not see how far away it is from the city?It's just a dust, they didn't destroy a thing(not even city lvl feat)
Lowkey idk what ur talking abt tsar bombs. But the final flash vegeta did literally did nothing to the planet yet you got goku and moro making shockwaves around the planet (yes db shockwaves are calcable) this has got to be ragebait atpBecause Tsar Bomb created a shockwave that travel 3 times around the Earth, when Goku created a shockwave that traveled only 1 time
Vegeta's final flash was much better
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They have 5-6 seconds to travel to another planet, with their speeds they could do that
Bruh, it's not a feat. They didn't even damage humans
Causing a dust isn't the same as destroying somenting. Also in that moment they didn't destroy a thing where they created so much dust
Vegeta's final flash has destroyed a portion of the Earth, when Goku's shockwave didn't even damaged a thing making this feat weaker than Tsar Bomb's explosion
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Sadly, it's the only good feat for 2 entire arcs
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Did you address the comment that told you that's your figure is using the total mass of the planet instead of debris for KE?
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Those are inaccurate. Those results are effectively assuming an entire planet's mass got launched at relativistic speeds, not the debris.
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But why shouldn't it be the same thing for Namek? Moments are litteraly the same
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Quickly, what is the debris being launched?
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so rechecking shit, you may be right, i was failing to account for the KE only using the average distance debris traveled which counter acts any mass being vaporized in the explosion. KE doesn't assume vaporization anyhow.
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that being said you used a 50 second time frame based of assumptions about thermonuclear bombs, which doesn't equate to a planetary explosion. even then you ending up getting debris velocity that's like 99% light speed, so yeah, you are running into FTL issues there using KE for namek
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