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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

XXBenShapiroXx said:
that being said you used a 50 second time frame based of assumptions about thermonuclear bombs, which doesn't equate to a planetary explosion. even then you ending up getting debris velocity that's like 99% light speed, so yeah, you are running into FTL issues there using KE for namek
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I got non ftl speed for the explosion, wasn't it right?
 
Mgebrat282 said:
They have 5-6 seconds to travel to another planet, with their speeds they could do that
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They would sufficate in space
Mgebrat282 said:
Bruh, it's not a feat. They didn't even damage humans
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You keep saying this like it debunks anything. The shockwaves in both the anime and manga didnt damage humans so idk why u keep bringing it up.
Mgebrat282 said:
Causing a dust isn't the same as destroying somenting. Also in that moment they didn't destroy a thing where they created so much dust
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Ur downplaying it based on nothing they didnt just create dust there was an explosion from the fight
Mgebrat282 said:
Vegeta's final flash has destroyed a portion of the Earth, when Goku's shockwave didn't even damaged a thing making this feat weaker than Tsar Bomb's explosion
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It destroyed a fraction of an island (its literally in your scan bruh) goku’s shockwaves are scaleable but i dont do shockwave calcs
 
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Goku Black's Acausality (Type 1) Issue

I honestly don't know whether this should go or not, but Acausality (Type 1) is defined that when you try to kill someone in the past, they wouldn't be affected as they're immune as in they don't exist in the past anymore even though the past timeline obviously is still there. In the case of...
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Mbpoops said:
They would sufficate in space
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No? They would have enough time, especially Goku with IT
Mbpoops said:
You keep saying this like it debunks anything. The shockwaves in both the anime and manga didnt damage humans so idk why u keep bringing it up.
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In anime they explained it, but in manga it's just weak
Mbpoops said:
Ur downplaying it based on nothing they didnt just create dust there was an explosion from the fight
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When we saw, they didn't destroy a thing there
Mbpoops said:
It destroyed a fraction of an island (its literally in your scan bruh) goku’s shockwaves are scaleable but i dont do shockwave calcs
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It destroyed much more and Goku's shockwave can be calced to some city lvl for sure
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Dragon Ball Super Anime Special Edition

Between episodes 75 and 76 Goku and Kuririn's training takes place, both go to an island in search of a grass in order for Master Roshi to live longer, they find Grandma Uranai on the same island, and she sends Goku and Kuririn to a kind of demon's mouth, where she created illusions based on...
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I think it will also gain resistance to fear🤔🤔
 
Dragon Ball Characters has countless Layers on Haxes

DB Hax'es works on power level, if youre stronger then your ability can affect your opponent

PL 100 Time Manip > PL 99 Time Manip Resistance

which leads to us that current Goku and Vegeta has Sooooo Maaaany Layers on their haxes
 
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Segetero said:
in what thread was dragon ball heroes upgraded to 6-D
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This one right here.
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Dragon Ball: Low 1-C Neutral Space

Oke, a thread at the end of the first month of new year, i'm dying, literally and metaphorically, anyway Credit to @Killerdrone123 @ProfectusInfinity and some others In this thread I would explain why neutral space in Dragon Ball would qualify for Low 1-C but first let me explain to you what...
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Mgebrat282 said:
Bump
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You can also have your calc evaluated on the Calculations Evaluations Thread. Gotta follow the included instructions tho.
 
i noticed that we scale tree of might base goku above oozaru gohan which contradicts the power levels we are given in-movie
 
Hi everyone! :D
I've been following DB-related discussions on Vs Battles for the past few years, but I never actually joined in until the Moro arc announcement pushed me into making an account. Really excited to finally be part of the conversations. Looking forward to getting along with everyone!
 
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Goku vs Mori Dan

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Son_Goku_(Toei)#Frieza_Fight https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mori_Dan?so=search#Post-Training Speed equalized + both at multi solar system key
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I have a question everyone. In the Xenoverse 2 DLC where Frieza becomes a Time God, he utilizes Time Power to erase every increase in power the Time Patrol obtained through training, and set it to a point before said training. However, because this was used mid-combat, does this mean that Time Power was capable of undoing all the power the Time patrol acquired during the fight itself from the adaptation, reactive evolution, and accelerated development that most, if not all, DB characters have? Moreover, the Future Warrior’s HP bar visibly shrinks at the same time, indicating that Time Power even reduces maximum HP. Wouldn't this mean Time Power possesses adaptation, reactive evolution, and accelerated development negation, as well as HP reduction?

Edit: Shouldn't Time Power also get transmutation and size manipulation? Cause I remember that during the Interlude for Xenoverse 1, it was mentioned that Chronoa wanted to demonstrate her powers, and decided to show it by transforming a dragon statue into an actual dragon. However, when she did that, she accidentally caused the dragon to grow substantially, which brought Toki Toki City to ruin.
 
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SageOfReason said:
I have a question everyone. In the Xenoverse 2 DLC where Frieza becomes a Time God, he utilizes Time Power to erase every increase in power the Time Patrol obtained through training, and set it to a point before said training. However, because this was used mid-combat, does this mean that Time Power was capable of undoing all the power the Time patrol acquired during the fight itself from the adaptation, reactive evolution, and accelerated development that most, if not all, DB characters have? Moreover, the Future Warrior’s HP bar visibly shrinks at the same time, indicating that Time Power even reduces maximum HP. Wouldn't this mean Time Power possesses adaptation, reactive evolution, and accelerated development negation, as well as HP reduction?
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I haven’t seen the entire DLC nor have I played or touched Xenoverse 2 content in a year or so but this sounds like some statistic reduction. IIRC I saw someone say it reverted them to a state in FW’s key where they’re star level (?) if this is the case it probably requires concise indexing. I’m not sure about adaption, reactive evolution and accelerated development. I don’t think it’s as though time power took away their very essence of being able to evolve. It’s likely that they still can do such, just that it’d require time but I’m unsure 🤷. You could argue it but it sounds a bit iffy to me, there’s also the fact that it’s something that can be numerous times. For example, you revert them back to a weakened state, they try to AD back to their strongest state, they get reverted. It’s basically redundant and becomes an endless cycle
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Edit: Shouldn't Time Power also get transmutation and size manipulation? Cause I remember that during the Interlude for Xenoverse 1, it was mentioned that Chronoa wanted to demonstrate her powers, and decided to show it by transforming a dragon statue into an actual dragon. However, when she did that, she accidentally caused the dragon to grow substantially, which brought Toki Toki City to ruin.
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I recall this instance and yeah it should have sized manipulation and transmutation. Not necessarily a vital addition but it’s an addition nonetheless.
 
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Rewinding time for a character would obviously take whatever the character gained in the future. It's a mechanic of time travel

If a character gains an ability/knowledge when he reaches the age of 10, then you rewind them to the age of 5 (not to be confused with just de-aging the character through age manipulation, where only the physical age of the body is affected) they'd obviously lack said ability because they haven't learnt/gained it yet.

There is no ability negation here, just a common time rewind technique focused on a certain character. If you can't see it clear, just think of Time Rewind as some kind of Time Travel. If you rewind time of the universe back to Saiyan Saga, Goku will not be able to use SSJ because he hasn't learnt it yet. Same happens if you focus the effect on Goku to rewind his body back to how it was in Saiyan Saga, without affecting the universe
 
JustANormalPerson01 said:
Rewinding time for a character would obviously take whatever the character gained in the future. It's a mechanic of time travel

If a character gains an ability/knowledge when he reaches the age of 10, then you rewind them to the age of 5 (not to be confused with just de-aging the character through age manipulation, where only the physical age of the body is affected) they'd obviously lack said ability because they haven't learnt/gained it yet.

There is no ability negation here, just a common time rewind technique focused on a certain character. If you can't see it clear, just think of Time Rewind as some kind of Time Travel. If you rewind time of the universe back to Saiyan Saga, Goku will not be able to use SSJ because he hasn't learnt it yet. Same happens if you focus the effect on Goku to rewind his body back to how it was in Saiyan Saga, without affecting the universe
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Yeah I thought the same. There’s no actual ability negation but would it be egregious and inaccurate to say it can reduce statistics up to 6D to what should be 3D Obviously it has its limits (not being able to revert any higher than 6D) in this context. But would that be a thing? I’ve actually never seen such a situation before but ontologically speaking like existential wise I have. (Just to clarify I’m speaking AP and durability wise).
 
Gamin_Yoon23 said:
Yeah I thought the same. There’s no actual ability negation but would it be egregious and inaccurate to say it can reduce statistics up to 6D to what should be 3D
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Yes, because it doesn't reduce statistics, it just returns the target to a previous state of time.

If a certain character was born with 1-C AP, it won't make him go back to any lower tier.
 
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