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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

"Fillers" are the episodes that are not included in the manga and were created to "fill in" the gaps between the manga and the anime that follows the manga but could not continue.

So, if something happens in the anime but doesn't happen in the manga, it's called a "filler episode." However, this isn't the case in Dragon Ball, because everything we can refer to as "filler" directly affects the story in DRAGON BALL, for example: Pikkon.

The DBZ Kai anime and the DBS Anime take place directly in the same timeline, meaning everything that happens in the DBZ Kai Anime also happens in the DBS Anime.

There is no such thing as fillers because the filler scenes we are talking about are events that actually happen in the story and are directly included in the story continuity.

There is no such thing as Non-Canon, If you are going to say non-canon because of "filler" All Dragon Ball Super Anime and Dragon Ball Z Anime are Non-Canon

If King Vegeta f*cked Vegeta's mother in the DBZ Kai Anime, that means that a few years ago in the timeline of the DBS Anime, King Vegeta f*cked Vegeta's mother.

You won't get anywhere by saying "eğhğhğhğhğ you have to prove it eğğğğğ". We've proven that the DBZ Kai Anime is connected to the DBS Anime, it's up to you to prove they're not the same.
 
Btw, did any of you ever tried to make a calc for the size of the universe?

Earth is at the edge of the universe, yet the size of the observable universe starts with earth.

Meaning the radius of the observable universe is too small to the point Earth is still considered at the edge.
 
Robo432343 said:
Db universe is infinite
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Well I mean it should be but we gotta make due with what we got
MrTayman616 said:
Btw, did any of you ever tried to make a calc for the size of the universe?

Earth is at the edge of the universe, yet the size of the observable universe starts with earth.

Meaning the radius of the observable universe is too small to the point Earth is still considered at the edge.
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I get what you mean but I think you're reading too much into it, I think it's just located differently from IRL rather than the radius being that small

Not sure if you'd be able to calc that anyway
 
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INCON GRACE [3-0-4] - Xeno Broly vs Toei Vegito

Fight is at a minecraft superflat bedrock-only seed (they're players, so indestructible ground) Speed is equal, to make things easier Xeno Broly is at his first key Broly starts at SSJ3 They start 4m apart Xeno Broly: @Mickey1940, @Nonynho, @Jackythejack Toei Vegito: Incon: @Drite77...
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Anyone would please use this level of effort to help us concluding if this is a stomp or not?
 
Quite the question:

Vegito was formed by Vegeta and Goku in base. Vegito > Buuhan = true
Vegito > SSJ3 Goku ≥ Kid Buu > Buuhan = true

So Potara multiplier ~ SSJ3 multiplier, which is 400x base and both fusionees scale to roughly the same value in base, IIRC the same, so...
Potara ~ 400x base?
 
Wow. Ignoring the drug-induced nonsense in that fourth line, Fusion creates a warrior greater than the sum of its parts??????
 
Jokes aside, made sense to me, meaning Cell Saga gave unimaginable buffs to him, cuz he's also able to tank one of his attacks at some point iirc
 
Hopefully, I'll be able to get Tournament Saga Great Ape Goku to upscale from the Moon-Destroying Kamehameha, which'll make, like, every normal human in the Dragon World 5-B.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
Hopefully, I'll be able to get Tournament Saga Great Ape Goku to upscale from the Moon-Destroying Kamehameha, which'll make, like, every normal human in the Dragon World 5-B.
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Suppose that's why the Tao revision has been taking a while. Gotta say though, trying to get the "Beginning of DB Goku is only twice as strong as a regular human” thing accepted after pushing him to 5-B is going to be well, borderline impossible. Might be smarter to tackle that first, ya know?
 
noninho said:
one quote is basing ur argument? it really made no sense to me, no joke
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Nah, there’s Tao being stronger than a bunch of 5-Cs and pre-manga Great Ape Goku straight-up killing someone stronger than that, a bunch guidebooks saying that BoDB Goku isn’t THAT much stronger than a regular human and several scenes where normal humans actually manage to hurt him.

It's definitely pretty ambitious and the last thread that tried to do so got rejected on just the basis.
 
Eden_Warlock99 said:
Nah, there’s Tao being stronger than a bunch of 5-Cs and pre-manga Great Ape Goku straight-up killing someone stronger than that, a bunch guidebooks saying that BoDB Goku isn’t THAT much stronger than a regular human and several scenes where normal humans actually manage to hurt him.

It's definitely pretty ambitious and the last thread that tried to do so got rejected on just the basis.
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I hope this gets accepted, it'd be fun af

May i ask you to check my theory about potara multiplier that i posted last page?
 
noninho said:
May i ask you to check my theory about potara multiplier that i posted last page?
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Don't think it's a consistent multiplier tbh, even when it comes to comparable fusees (See base Kefla being stronger than SSJG). It's even weirder when the fusees aren't comparable (Forgot which one is the accurate translation, but fusing with Mr. Satan would've either weakened Goku or only added 1 to Goku's 1000).
 
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Dragon Ball: Mister Satan Upgrades

So up to now, we’ve been scaling Mr. Satan (and by extension his daughter Videl) to transonic based on this feat, which was never actually calculated. But if someone actually sat down and ran the numbers, they’d find it’s way more impressive than it looks at first glance. New Speed: Mach Mach...
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Unrelated, but I've been wanting to argue for Android Saga Piccolo and Gohan upscaling from Frieza based off of dialogue from Kakarot's Main Story they share with Goku during their initial training, as well as what Piccolo says to the Z-Fighters in DBZ:142; also, Gohan training alongside Goku and Piccolo for three years; and, Goku saying "We'll definitely need Gohan's power" in DBZ:142; then, Gohan being the only fighter to detect Goku's weakness, alongside Piccolo, in DBZ:147; then, Gohan staggering Android 20 after he had absorbed Piccolo's energy in DBZ:152; and Goku addressing Gohan as comparable in DBZ:173 (tentative), later asserting Gohan would "be a great sparring partner" as a Super Saiyan, implying their levels are not too vastly different. I just don't know if I can get it to stick.
 
noninho said:
one quote is basing ur argument?
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No, multiple statements, from sources including the Adventure Special, Dragon Ball Landmark, the Extreme Battle Collection: Round 01, the DRAGON BALL DVD BOX: Dragon Book, the Super Exciting Guide: Story Volume, and the DRAGON BALL OFFICIAL SITE (to be translated), which similarly suggest Jackie Chun's only option was destroying the moon, rather than attacking Goku head-on; heavily implying Jackie could not even defeat Great Ape Goku with his MAX Power Kamehameha.

In fact, Goku even completely negated his fully-powered Bankoku Bikkuri Shō, which is stated multiple times by official sources to be his "deadliest" and "most powerful" secret technique. However, considering Jackie hadn't yet used his MAX Power upon unleashing the latter, I'm a little hesitant on completely arguing it's more powerful than the former.

And, even if Tournament Saga Great Ape Goku isn't accepted as scaling to the Moon-Destroying Kamehameha, Tao Pai Pai's Dodon Ray 100% should, given it's both stated to be more powerful than the Kamehameha in general and directly compared to Roshi's Kamehameha, and Post-Korin Training Goku, who is only "nearly 20 times" more powerful than he was during the Pilaf Saga, directly upscales from the Dodon Ray.
 
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