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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

Alexander said:
we don't even fully see it, because it is just a battle ground for them and nothing more.
also many of the logistics don't make sense, like, planet namek is a big planet, way bigger than earth, but it has the same gravity of earth considering that Bulma can walk there and she is not instantly crushed
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but I think this is a false symmetry

we learn about the process of photosynthesis in elementary school

the laws of gravity and the functionality between celestial bodies is something more complex in addition, we have a broad view of the asteroid when Goku crosses it with a ki power, and we see that it really has absolutely nothing
 
Alexander said:
there is also no proof for that, mostly because, again, Saiyans can't be in space, and if they can be there, then it means that there is oxygen.
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That’s not evidence against the astroid having no oxygen, your argument is circular
Alexander said:
it is not inconsistent, actually it is very consistent that they can't survive in space, and all the instances where they are in "space"are either so brief that it is ridiculous, or are a inconsistency on itself (Goku going to the moon as a child generates another inconsistency, that is, that he should have trasnformed into ozaru, he was literraly LOOKING AT THE MOON, or should have been looking at the moon for that.)
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lol
Alexander said:
should have trasnformed into ozaru, he was literraly LOOKING AT THE MOON, or should have been looking at the moon for that.)
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That inconsistency has nothing to do with Goku surviving on the moon, so it’s a non-factor, plus Goku needs to look at a full moon
 
Alexander said:
i don't think being in a erased timeline should give you anything unless you were there from the start, or when the timeline was nuked.
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There’s no need to even think about the erased timeline.

Just imagine Zeno was on a planet,
then he destroys that planet, and now he’s floating in space.
After that, Goku shows up and talks to him.

When a planet is destroyed all the matter that made up its surface and atmosphere is scattered into space.
In the vacuum of space, there’s no air, no pressure, and temperatures can reach near absolute zero

Any living being suddenly exposed to that environment without protection would face vacuum exposure, lack of oxygen, intense radiation, and extreme temperature swings.
Characters like Goku surviving in such situations for even a few seconds implies extremely high durability.
 
Hayato5652 said:
We all know that Saiyans can’t survive in space for long,
but there’s clear evidence that throughout the story, Goku has encountered space multiple times and managed to survive for at least a few seconds.
I don’t understand why some people think Saiyans die the instant they enter space.
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Vegeta died after the earth exploded, obviosly he won't have died from earth exploding (that will cause the scaling to drop)so he obviosly died from being on space.
 
UnoRebaixadO said:
but I think this is a false symmetry

we learn about the process of photosynthesis in elementary school

the laws of gravity and the functionality between celestial bodies is something more complex in addition, we have a broad view of the asteroid when Goku crosses it with a ki power, and we see that it really has absolutely nothing
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in this series where gods exists?honestly anything goes, also why are there trees in the afterlife?
 
Ednaxel2 said:
That’s not evidence against the astroid having no oxygen, your argument is circular
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it is, if it is something has significant has saiyans not being able to be on space.
Ednaxel2 said:
lol

That inconsistency has nothing to do with Goku surviving on the moon, so it’s a non-factor, plus Goku needs to look at a full moon
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yes it has, because he can't go to the moon without looking at it, unless he is always looking at the earth when he went to the moon
 
Hayato5652 said:
There’s no need to even think about the erased timeline.

Just imagine Zeno was on a planet,
then he destroys that planet, and now he’s floating in space.
After that, Goku shows up and talks to him.

When a planet is destroyed all the matter that made up its surface and atmosphere is scattered into space.
In the vacuum of space, there’s no air, no pressure, and temperatures can reach near absolute zero

Any living being suddenly exposed to that environment without protection would face vacuum exposure, lack of oxygen, intense radiation, and extreme temperature swings.
Characters like Goku surviving in such situations for even a few seconds implies extremely high durability.
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there is also the air part where they need to talk because sound but i think this is irrelevant because fiction clearly does not respect this, and will never respect this.
 
We had a discussion and backed up our claims with evidence, concluding that Saiyans don’t die instantly in space, don’t freeze immediately, and aren’t affected by cosmic radiation right away.
If you don’t accept that, it really doesn’t matter.
I’d prefer not to continue this conversation.
 
Hayato5652 said:
We had a discussion and backed up our claims with evidence, concluding that Saiyans don’t die instantly in space, don’t freeze immediately, and aren’t affected by cosmic radiation right away.
If you don’t accept that, it really doesn’t matter.
I’d prefer not to continue this conversation.
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ok
 
Ednaxel2 said:
The artificial moon reflects enough blutz waves for them anyways (17 million), a full moon simply exceeds that. The moon at any other stage simply does not exceed 17 million, hence why they always say it's only at a full moon
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yeah, but you forget that the moon having stages is just because of the rotation?
 
Alexander said:
yeah, but you forget that the moon having stages is just because of the rotation?
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Yeah I passed science class in primary school too, what's your point? Blutz waves are from the reflection of light from the moon, the less light being reflected = less blutz waves

Actually read the series for once
 
Ednaxel2 said:
Yeah I passed science class in primary school too, what's your point? Blutz waves are from the reflection of light from the moon, the less light being reflected = less blutz waves

Actually read the series for once
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yes, reflection of the light on the moon, and what is better, seeing the moon on space or seeing it on earth?
 
Alexander completely cooked the Dragon Ball fans in this debate. In fact, he not only cooked them, but also ate them for dinner, including UnoRebaixado.

Congratulations Alexander 🙏
 
UnoRebaixadO said:
Yes, I'm not saying that the person would die instantly (in fact, they probably would, due to internal damage), but I'm saying that Goku didn't show any negative symptoms afterward.

There are several scenes where Goku spends a few seconds in the vacuum of space, and that would be enough to cause terrible damage in the first few seconds.

Goku may not have demonstrated the ability to stay in space for long periods, but from what he has demonstrated, the vacuum certainly acts much less violently on him.
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Wouldn't this provide resistance to durability negation for Goku? Since his internal organs can withstand it.
 
No? Wouldn’t it just be durability? He’s prob just superior to the force of the pressure and shit. Idk
 
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Demon_Lord18 said:
Wouldn't this provide resistance to durability negation for Goku? Since his internal organs can withstand it.
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While attacking internal organs is considered as durability negation, and resisting it obviously would give resistance to that, I am not sure if it would be enough to give it to Goku via surviving in the vacuum of space
 
Ednaxel2 said:
You can’t be this ignorant of all blatant information being told to you, like what even is this point, no one is denying the moon having light. You’re not built for these discussions and it shows
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yeah, but the argument is that it is a inconsistency that Goku can go to space in that arc without transforming, considering he has to look at the moon
 
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