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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

LuffyRuffy46307 said:
I can't wait to see the DB or DBZ kakarott site mention that Dragon Ball Daima is canon once again (besides the title itself anime, website and the akio iyoku talking about Dragon Ball Daima having connections with all the works)
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yeah because that is something good
 
Fezzih_007 said:
When he said that? I see people saying he did, but I don't know.
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THE “CONNECTION” IS VISIBLE

It is known that “DAIMA” takes place after the Majin Buu saga in the original manga , but since “Dragon Ball” has many different stories, the connection to the story has become a topic of discussion among fans. While it has not been explicitly stated so far, Iyoku said, “It is true that sensei himself was in charge of the story, that it is an ongoing series and that it is connected to the Majin Buu saga. That is the fact, period.”
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There are many places where you can feel a connection. In “DAIMA,” the origins of the Kaiohshin, Namekians, Majin Buu, and others are revealed. Every time, a connection is revealed, and there are some surprising parts.
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“I’m sure you’re wondering where DAIMA fits into the Dragon Ball series, and we’re trying to show the various connections to Dragon Ball. Even if we don’t know about it, I think there are connections in Sensei’s mind, and I’m not aiming for that, but I’m trying to show that as well. The part that surprised me the most was that: ‘all those with pointy ears are inhabitants of the Great Demon Realm.’ I think this is an idea Sensei had vaguely in mind for a while, and I was surprised to find it. Sensei has a firm grasp of the world of Dragon Ball, and he changes his focus depending on the work. I didn’t force him to come up with the ideas. The twists are important, and since the anime started without the original manga, I’m very conscious of having the kind of ‘pull’ that you get in the manga.”
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“DAIMA” is trying to create an anime series like no other while preserving the essence of “Dragon Ball.” There is no doubt that this is a challenging task.
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“Because we’ve been in business for so long, we haven’t made any drastic mistakes, but if we keep doing the same thing, people will get bored. It's hard to find the right balance. It’s something we’ve ended up doing so far, but while it’s hard to change everything to ensure the image we have in mind, we also need to keep taking on new challenges.”
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The interview you can find here
 
Fezzih_007 said:
Wow, I read all of that, and definitelly proves that is canon to Dragon Ball 🤔

Trought, don't exactly adress my other issue, If they events of the Daima story happened in Super.
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Dragon Ball Daima takes place before Super and the events of Daima are in the same timeline, DBS just got a huge retcon as usual. Because there is a connection to Super, the 12 Kaioshins appearing and going to the 12 Universes is further evidence of this.
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
Dragon Ball Daima takes place before Super and the events of Daima are in the same timeline, DBS just got a huge retcon as usual. Because there is a connection to Super, the 12 Kaioshins appearing and going to the 12 Universes is further evidence of this.
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Nothing says it's canon to DBS at all.

It'd be more with the DBZ Manga as the story is fully made by Toriyama and the contradictions are too much.

Another one, beyond the Kibitoshin split, Goku saying that SSJ3 is his peak against Beerus, and the Rymus not existing in Super, is that the angels, Grand Priest and Zeno are all without pointy ears, meaning that they existed after the Demon Realm and are all younger than DKP and Nahare, which would be pure nonsense.
 
StrymULTRA said:
Nothing says it's canon to DBS at all.

It'd be more with the DBZ Manga as the story is fully made by Toriyama and the contradictions are too much.

Another one, beyond the Kibitoshin split, Goku saying that SSJ3 is his peak against Beerus, and the Rymus not existing in Super, is that the angels, Grand Priest and Zeno are all without pointy ears, meaning that they existed after the Demon Realm and are all younger than DKP and Nahare, which would be pure nonsense.
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This still does not refute the fact that the works are canon, because there are several contradictions in DBS and every work.
 
StrymULTRA said:
You're misunderstanding what I mean and I don't think you're arguing off good faith.

Yeah I forgot the timeline downgrade, but continuities are not in the same timeline, they're just other things.

Unless DBS anime and manga are in the same timeline too.
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According to Toyotarou the manga and anime are different timelines, although it has the same ending
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
According to Toyotarou the manga and anime are different timelines, although it has the same ending
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I think you have no idea on what a continuity is then.

They're simply a whole other version that has no business with the main canon.

It's the same as MCU and the Main Marvel Comics, these are not even in same multiverse, they're different continuities that are completely disconnected. At best you can argue that they're different cosmologies completely separated from each other.

Same with the FNAF games, novels and comics. These 3 are different continuities, but it doesn't mean they coexist in a shared multiverses either.
 
StrymULTRA said:
I think you have no idea on what a continuity is then.

They're simply a whole other version that has no business with the main canon.

It's the same as MCU and the Main Marvel Comics, these are not even in same multiverse, they're different continuities that are completely disconnected. At best you can argue that they're different cosmologies completely separated from each other.

Same with the FNAF games, novels and comics. These 3 are different continuities, but it doesn't mean they coexist in a shared multiverses either.
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The only things that are disconnected from the original work are the spin-offs like the Z movies, DBGT, DBH, and that's it.

The manga, anime, everything is connected with the same ending and at the same time with different stories.
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
The only things that are disconnected from the original work are the spin-offs like the Z movies, DBGT, DBH, and that's it.

The manga, anime, everything is connected with the same ending and at the same time with different stories.
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Daima also is disconnected, but you're just too stubborn to accept it :/
 
Alright, is time.
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
Dragon Ball Daima takes place before Super and the events of Daima are in the same timeline
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Based on what? None of the quotes you show to me proves that.
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
Because there is a connection to Super, the 12 Kaioshins appearing
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You know, that just cameos right? A series can show a image of characters from other series, and still don't mean they share the same continuity.
Like Luffy, any time someone points a contradiction that Daima have with Super, you just dismiss them with a "is a retcon" excuse, but then the anime vaguely have a reference to Super, and you treat that like irrefutable evidence that is canon.

Like, we have way more reasons to believe that Daima and Super are not canon to each other due to various scenes, but you keep saying it is canon because of one scene.
Like, a mountain of evidence vs a little bit of evidence.
What you think we gonna apply Occam's razor? There's way more reason to belive is not canon to Super, that it is Canon.
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
Yep
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So, Neko Majin Z and Dragon Ball Online are Canon then? This "All Works" would include them too.

Also, the interview you show just stated that Daima have a connection with the Buu Saga. It said nothing if is canon to Super.
 
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