All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

[Ryzen7900X]

That's kinda toooo big?
It's fiction so (it's doesn't matter)

it’s actually lowballed because normally you wouldn’t assume those stars to be red dwarf stars but instead sun-like main sequence/G-sequence stars. this is more so a conservative calc if anything

 

[Omegabronic]

huh this is actually not bad but I feel like whoever did this didn’t have the scans that we had here to justify the size further but the conclusion seems about right to me. Eyeballing it I was thinking it could be around small star level GBE too although idk if we should use the manga or Kai version for busting it

I Mean, we don't use the Piccolo moon busting from kai, so ig we wouldn't use the namek bust as well

 

[Ryzen7900X]

I Mean, we don't use the Piccolo moon busting from kai, so ig we wouldn't use the namek bust as well

ngl that kinda sucks because the way we currently calc it we don’t even take into account minimum visual acuity

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

What do you guys think of these

It's interesting, not sure this many calculation steps will be accepted tho, but then again, he didn't have as many shots of the planet

But tbh, in almost every shot, namek seems bigger than the stars around it

huh this is actually not bad but I feel like whoever did this didn’t have the scans that we had here to justify the size further but the conclusion seems about right to me. Eyeballing it I was thinking it could be around small star level GBE too although idk if we should use the manga or Kai version for busting it

Kai is only used for time frame, actual feat uses the manga

 

[Ryzen7900X]

It's interesting, not sure this many calculation steps will be accepted tho, but then again, he didn't have as many shots of the planet

But tbh, in almost every shot, namek seems bigger than the stars around it

Yeah I gotta say this is surprisingly consistent lmao

Kai is only used for time frame, actual feat uses the manga

I guess we can use the timeframe for Kai then

 

[Ryzen7900X]

pretty much makes dodoria’s statement about namek’s size a load of crap.
funny thing is even the low end of that calc is above Cell’s solar system busting calc and would probably push manga DBZ into 4-A

also if the size does get to around star sized then it might be worth doing some speed calcs too for the characters who traversed Namek

 

[Deleted member 40688]

It will be a whole lot of mess if E of frieza saga, cell saga and buu saga are all at solar system level.

 

[Omegabronic]

pretty much makes dodoria’s statement about namek’s size a load of crap.
funny thing is even the low end of that calc is above Cell’s solar system busting calc and would probably push manga DBZ into 4-A

also if the size does get to around star sized then it might be worth doing some speed calcs too for the characters who traversed Namek

Nah, make that the new baseline planet size due to being a "small planet" and upgrade everyone GG

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

pretty much makes dodoria’s statement about namek’s size a load of crap.

Not exactly, he just said it wasn't too big a planet iirc, not that it was small, he could've seen bigger ones, planet Vegeta for example was called enormous in the broly novelization that null posted in the Vegeta downgrade attempt. It's definitely larger than an average one tho

funny thing is even the low end of that calc is above Cell’s solar system busting calc and would probably push manga DBZ into 4-A

Meh, that calc would not be accepted here tbh, the speed of the blast there was calced at ftl (1.3E9m/s), KE wouldn't work

also if the size does get to around star sized then it might be worth doing some speed calcs too for the characters who traversed Namek

Maybe so

 

[Damage3245]

It will be a whole lot of mess if E of frieza saga, cell saga and buu saga are all at solar system level.

I'm sure there are better ways we could be improving the profiles.

 

[Ryzen7900X]

Nah, make that the new baseline planet size due to being a "small planet" and upgrade everyone GG

unironically the only solution to get out of this

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

I'm sure there are better ways we could be improving the profiles.

Minor Goku ability addition

can it applied?

vsbattles.com

Can you recheck this thread and see if you changed your mind about body control?

 

[Ryzen7900X]

Not exactly, he just said it wasn't too big a planet iirc, not that it was small, he could've seen bigger ones, planet Vegeta for example was called enormous in the broly novelization that null posted in the Vegeta downgrade attempt. It's definitely larger than an average one tho

That might upgrade the size of planet Vegeta even more lmao

Meh, that calc would not be accepted here tbh, the speed of the blast there was calced at ftl (1.3E9m/s), KE wouldn't work

pretty sure we could still use relativistic KE with the manga version

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

I'm sure there are better ways we could be improving the profiles.

Who needs improved profiles when you can inflate the stats

 

[Deleted member 40688]

Who needs improved profiles when you can inflate the stats

Which stuff is inflated?

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

That might upgrade the size of planet Vegeta even more lmao

pretty sure we could still use relativistic KE with the manga version

Unless they got the speed directly from the manga itself and it was relativistic, won't be allowed either

Though I found this calc attempting to find the size of namek

Dragon Ball - Namek Size

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Ryzen7900X]

Unless they got the speed directly from the manga itself and it was relativistic, won't be allowed either

if you used the manga version for the size of the explosion and the time frame from Kai I’m pretty sure it comes out to relativistic

on that note we might actually get a higher value given the sheer number of scans we have to justify the size too. 4-B SSJ Goku doesn’t sound bad

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

if you used the manga version for the size of the explosion and the time frame from Kai I’m pretty sure it comes out to relativistic

Do we even have a manga Namek explosion calc? I mean, no one has definitely made an accepted calculation of its size alone let alone the manga destruction

 

[Damage3245]

I see. I guess I'm fine with Limited Resurrection then as long as the conditions are specified in the justification.

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

I see. I guess I'm fine with Limited Resurrection then as long as the conditions are specified in the justification.

Wrong thread?

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

I hope limited res gets accepted because that really helps my EG Goku CRT

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Speaking of actually, what are your thoughts on Extraordinary Genius in combat for Goku Damage?

 

[Deleted member 40688]

Hmm i dont know about damage, cos he mostly hold back his punches. So uh? Genius?

 

[Ryzen7900X]

Do we even have a manga Namek explosion calc? I mean, no one has definitely made an accepted calculation of its size alone let alone the manga destruction

i don’t think we do because no one really cared to but with this it might warrant a calc too now. 4-B SSJ Goku is too good to pass up

 

[Deleted member 40688]

 

[Damage3245]

Wrong thread?

Whoops, lol.

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

i don’t think we do because no one really cared to but with this it might warrant a calc too now. 4-B SSJ Goku is too good to pass up

You are reaaaaaaalllllyyyyyyy hopeful for this aren't ya?

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Hmm i dont know about damage, cos he mostly hold back his punches. So uh? Genius?

I forgot the comma after Goku, d'oh

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

Well

That's 2 threads closed now, progress

 

[Deleted member 40688]

LuffyRuffy46307 situation is not looking good.

 

[Ryzen7900X]

You are reaaaaaaalllllyyyyyyy hopeful for this aren't ya?

honestly? Not much to be hopeful for. IF (which is the only hopeful part) this gets accepted then 4-B is probably the only conclusion here

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

LuffyRuffy46307 situation is not looking good.

Not really. They're no longer giving him a warning and have instead chosen to block Omega from interacting with him, which according to his message wall, has already been implemented.

Edit: they're giving him a warning, but a light one at best, not even a stern one.

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

LuffyRuffy46307 situation is not looking good.

At least, it seems he no longer wants to be permabanned

Not really. They're no longer giving him a warning and have instead chosen to block Omega from interacting with him, which according to his message wall, has already been implemented.

Damn, to think it'd boil over this bad

 

[Deleted member 40688]

There are currently 8 db threads running.

 

[Veronica]

The concept of a retcon must be something new to the staff. You can post mountains of evidence of a retcon, but BaTlE Of GoDss!! Yes all the evidence shows it got retconned AFTER that during U6 arc.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Not really. They're no longer giving him a warning and have instead chosen to block Omega from interacting with him, which according to his message wall, has already been implemented.

Edit: they're giving him a warning, but a light one at best, not even a stern one.

Damn for real? Like I get some peeps will simply never get along but I was hoping it'll be an extreme last restort (I didn't even know that actually got implemented when I commented on the RVR).

Hopefully everyone involved in that debate debacle can move on, speaking of which...

There are currently 8 db threads running.

^THIS seriously needs to be addressed.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

When Super shenron brought back those erase, he also placed them back onto their universes, sonot wasn't like a restorative do-over either

Yes, he brought back those who were erased

This ins´t restoration

 

[Veronica]

"MuH BaTle Of GoDS" after seeing 10 pages of the retcon after it. "buT MuH bAtLe Of GoDs" shows SSJ is never shown as 50x SSG only SSB is called that, "MuuUuHh BaTlE oF GoDS!!" BoG doesn't even show SSJ being 50x SSG Lmao

 

[RedReaper616]

"MuH BaTle Of GoDS" after seeing 10 pages of the retcon after it. "buT MuH bAtLe Of GoDs" shows SSJ is never shown as 50x SSG only SSB is called that, "MuuUuHh BaTlE oF GoDS!!" BoG doesn't even show SSJ being 50x SSG Lmao

Have you WATCHED the DBS Anime? Because like...I feel like you should go revisit the portion where Goku is a normal SSJ, stronger than he was as a SSG, and then in Base Form was stronger than that after losing SSG in the fight against Beerus.

 

[Veronica]

Have you WATCHED the DBS Anime? Because like...I feel like you should go revisit the portion where Goku is a normal SSJ, stronger than he was as a SSG, and then in Base Form was stronger than that after losing SSG in the fight against Beerus.

That's SSG power growing in his SSJ form. Now show me SSJ making SSG 50x stronger in BoG, you can't. He can only do that with SSB as shown in RoF.