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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
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The_Yellow_Topaz
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Mistranslation I'm pretty sure.
It does not look like an actual black hole but Its potency rivals that of an all-engulfing black hole.
"圧縮され、漆黒に染まった球体は、近くにいるだけで押しつぶされそうな圧力を感じるほどだった。"
"The compressed, blackened sphere emitted a crushing pressure, absorbing surrounding energy."
It never mentions a comparison with a Black Hole, it just says the pressure is crushing.
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With growth 1 second of fighting saitama would be galaxy+++++++ since he can grow like trillions and trillions of time a second
The_Yellow_Topaz
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Bro thinks it's just a passive when Saitama has to actively feel raw emotion for this to happen
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I guess the saying db fans can’t read is true
mind telling me where I stated it was passive?
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Ehh the way they described Cell max attack seemed more like it was referring to a black hole tbh.
But regardless it should still be a good lifting feat
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Trillions times a second? What made you pull that number out of your ass?On this site, he barely grow for like 50 times after a long ass fight based on the growth graph calculation.If you truly want someone that can actually grow for trillions times in a fight, you can ask Garou, he can call Saitama and Saitama can give you Broly’s number.
The_Yellow_Topaz
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It isn't, it's an ambiguous statement that can't be measured.
I'm not a DB fan, primarily. You pulling a number out your ass and saying the boost would happen in the first second of the fight constitutes a passive growing ability on that level.I guess the saying db fans can’t read is true
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Im pretty sure it can, that’s why we have E=Mc^2
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漆黒 = "jet-black"
に indicates the purpose of a succeeding verb.
染まった = "to be dyed".
球体 = "sphere"; "orb"
The sphere is dyed [colored] jet-black; ergo, not a black hole, but a black ball... of energy.
or smth like that im no expert
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Nah it is
The_Yellow_Topaz
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Do the math then Einstein
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Energy attack in Dragon ball does have a mass, heck I recall Goku describing one of Beerus attacks being too heavy
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This is what mine said
"The compressed, jet-black sphere, reminiscent of a black hole, emitted such intense pressure that merely being close to it felt like being crushed."
I asked further about anything about a black hole there
And it said this
"The most accurate interpretation would depend on the context in which this sentence is used. However, based solely on the provided text, the interpretation suggests a description of a compressed, dark sphere that exerts significant pressure, evoking the sensation of being near a black hole due to its intense gravitational pull."
Was yours machine translated?
Iirc, nack in namek saga, Frieza's energy sphere pushed Goku through a boulder or so as he was pushing back against it physically
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I used chat gpt lol :
"Having unleashed the colossal energy blast, Cellmax condensed the energy, tightening it with a tremendous force that could be lifted with one hand. Despite its enormous size, Cellmax's energy blast, like a black hole swallowing space, absorbed energy from its surroundings, increasing its power even more."
Anyway can't we determine Cell's lifting strength based on the gravitational force of his attack ?
"Having unleashed the colossal energy blast, Cellmax condensed the energy, tightening it with a tremendous force that could be lifted with one hand. Despite its enormous size, Cellmax's energy blast, like a black hole swallowing space, absorbed energy from its surroundings, increasing its power even more."
Anyway can't we determine Cell's lifting strength based on the gravitational force of his attack ?
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No.
It doesn't mention a black hole at all. You guys are making it up, and that's honestly hilarious.
First off, the word for Black Hole in Japanese is "ブラックホール" (Burakku Hōru), that isn't present in the original text.
Here's a breakdown of the Japanese sentence:
1. 圧縮され (Asshuku sare) - compressed
2. 漆黒に染まった (Shikkoku ni somatta) - dyed in jet black
3. 球体 (Kyūtai) - sphere
4. は (Wa) - topic marker
5. 近くにいるだけで (Chikaku ni iru dake de) - merely by being close
6. 押しつぶされそうな (Oshitsubusare-sō na) - seemingly about to be crushed
7. 圧力 (Atsuryoku) - pressure
8. を感じる (o kanjiru) - to feel
9. ほどだった (hodo datta) - to the extent
Putting it together: "The compressed, jet-black sphere, just by being close to it, gave off a pressure so intense that it felt like one was about to be crushed."
It can't POSSIBLY be compared to a Black Hole.
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The way how the attack was described (strong gravitational pull that creates a vortex, absorbing energy and objects,...etc etc), it can possibly refer to a black hole or at least an attack with the same potency as a black hole.
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ChatGPT Is there where I can look at this?
The way how the attack was described (strong gravitational pull that creates a vortex, absorbing energy and objects,...etc etc), it can possibly refer to a black hole or at least an attack with the same potency as a black hole.
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Ask chatGPT to highlight the kanji that it’s translating to black hole if DeepL is giving something else
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Stupid comments like this make no sense, especially when it's an accusations worthy of an RVR ban
Not if the force is unknown
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Well it was strong enough to create a vortex on a continental scale, would that be enough ?
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Hasty12345
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It probably is a black hole, but it seems we lack the proper evidence to prove it.Ehh I did :
That was Chat GPT interpretation based on how Cell max attack worked
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Stop using DeepL, stop using Google Translation, stop using Yandex, stop using ******* ChatGPT, and start learning how the language works.
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I did, posted it in my earlier message too
"The kanji "漆黒" (しっこく - shikkoku) was translated as "jet-black," which is used to describe something very dark or black. In the context provided, it's used to characterize the color or appearance of the sphere, evoking the imagery of a black hole due to its darkness and potential gravitational pull."
I don't know how to upload screenshots
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We call a professional in Japanese @Executor_N0, his translation is excellent.
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Was this due to the gravity alone?
Anyway, it's best to have a resident translator simply translate the sentence to put this to bed
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Nullflowerblush
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the post-luffy era man...
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This part that says it swallows the Universe seems quite interesting
ごはん どう けれど悟飯は動じない。
それどころか、なぜかニヤリと笑みを浮かべてさえいる。 せんとう この ほんのうごはん 戦闘を 好むサイヤ人として本能が悟飯をそうさせているのか。
ちょうきょだいきだん つきぎょうしゅく 超巨大な気弾をうみだしたセルマックスは、エネルギーをギュンッと一気に凝縮させた。 うちゅうめ ちょうきょうりょく きだん 右手で持ちあげられるほどの大きさだが、宇宙を飲みこむブラックホールのような超強力なセルマックスの気弾は、まわりか きゅうしゅう らエネルギーを吸収して、さらにどんどんパワーをあげる。
How about dinner? But Gohan remains unfazed.
On the contrary, for some reason he even smiled. He sat down: As a Saiyan who loves combat, would Gohan's instincts lead him to do this?
Cellmax, who produced a gigantic energy bullet, condensed the energy all at once.
Although it is large enough to be lifted with Uchu's right hand, Cellmax's super-powerful air bullet, like a black hole swallowing the universe, absorbs energy from the environment and becomes even
more powerful.
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Via scaling it would make sense tbh
Nullflowerblush
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wow, look at that; the kanji for black holes.
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Really.
Nullflowerblush
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The black hole is being mentioned figuratively to emphasize Cell Max's ability to absorb energy.
It's called a simile.
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