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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

Raskolux said:
Oh if people continue to be as prejudiced as they are now I'm sure the thread will be closed before we even get 2 words in lol
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The thing is you can try but we got tier 1 now so we should wait until all the mods are open to the idea to get better results
 
Phsccarvalho said:
What I find unbelievable is that at the time it was not considered outilier.

If you guys really want Beerus 5D.

So see if at the god level there are Low 1-C things.

Because a 5D thing and a sea of 4D things for being an outlier. But if at sea 4D consistently has 5D stuff on top, even if it's just range, that could open mods' minds.

What I find funny is that they didn't really disagree, like, even at the time everything but one of Arale's abilities was 4D.
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As I said "all we'll have" is a 5D e.e hax I don't think it has any value that contradicts the series Beerus' physicals will still be 2-C and zeno's e.e will be layered that's all we'll have
 
Raskolux said:
The only thing that would happen in this case is that zeno's erasure hax would take a layer, mate? This has nothing to do with outliers.
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Layers don´t work that way, also, Arale is stronger than Zeno
Skarfz said:
Have you ever thought that we could consider Zeno having a better EE than beerus 5D one?
Its directly stated his EE is above anyone's Hakai, Beerus will scale to it without a problem, its just that Zeno has a bigger EE.
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Arale is stronger than Zeno, what you and the other guy are saying is Beerus > Arale > Zeno, which is obviously wrong
 
007_Sulista said:
Layers don´t work that way, also, Arale is stronger than Zeno

Arale is stronger than Zeno, what you and the other guy are saying is Beerus > Arale > Zeno, which is obviously wrong
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What?

You know that all the gods of destruction are resistant to each other's e.e.

And since zeno can ignore their resistance (we have been told many times that there is nothing he cannot erase), he must take the layer, it is very simple

Also arale>zeno has nothing to do with e.e.
 
Then why was beerus having low 1c ee excepted in the first place does anybody has link for the crt in which it was a accepted
 
Killerdrone123 said:
Then why was beerus having low 1c we excepted in the first place does anybody has link for the crt in which it was a accepted
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Ofc
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Beerus Upgrade Part 2

Continued from here Anyways, let's get this going. This is actually pretty simple : in the Dragon Ball Super episode where Arale and Dr. Slump characters appear, Beerus has a feat of erasing Dr. Mashirito. What's impressive is that this character (Dr. Mashirito) has feats of resisting 5-D...
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Raskolux said:
What?

You know that all the gods of destruction are resistant to each other's e.e.

And since zeno can ignore their resistance (we have been told many times that there is nothing he cannot erase), he must take the layer, it is very simple
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Ok, makes sense
Raskolux said:
Also arale>zeno has nothing to do with e.e.
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EE in Dragon Ball is affiliated with AP, you can see that in Granolah arc when Vegeta is trying to learn hakai and was causing mini-explosions
 
007_Sulista said:
Beerus EE seems like an outlier, like, the only being in canon material that is Low 1-C is Zeno, and Beerus is obviously not comparable to Zeno

At the end of it all, the series treated it as if Beerus was going to erase Arale without much effort, in other words, a feat by Beerus without much effort is several times superior to the greatest feat in the anime that was done by a being that is massively superior to him
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Except we know that being is much stronger than Beerus and would simply upscale. Mind you, we have a direct comparison between hakai and Zeno's erase, hakai can't kill a bring granted immortality by superb shenron, erase effortlessly did, so Zeno"s EE is already undeniably>>>>>hakai.
Anything hakai does, erase upscales, this is literally the basis for majority of db xters

Beerus and Goku nearly nuking the macrocosm has never been matched by an angel, but we know they would flex on that feat


As for him having 5d hax with Zeno, there can literally be an infinite power difference between 2 guys in 5D, you do realize they were both 2c until recently?
 
Jaakor48 said:
Except we know that being is much stronger than Beerus and would simply upscale. Mind you, we have a direct comparison between hakai and Zeno's erase, hakai can't kill a bring granted immortality by superb shenron, erase effortlessly did, so Zeno"s EE is already undeniably>>>>>hakai.
Anything hakai does, erase upscales, this is literally the basis for majority of db xters

Beerus and Goku nearly nuking the macrocosm has never been matched by an angel, but we know they would flex on that feat


As for him having 5d hax with Zeno, there can literally be an infinite power difference between 2 guys in 5D, you do realize they were both 2c until recently?
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do you know that, if we accept the Beerus "feat" against Arale, he would be stronger than Zeno, right?
 
007_Sulista said:
Vegeta was trying to do the hakai and was creating mini-explosions, showing that there is a relationship between the creation of hakai through destructive power
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NO?

"For example" you can produce 6-C fireballs covered with 4D e.e. This has nothing to do with e.e=physical statistics

We had the same e.e ratings when Arale used to be considered 2-B, and beerus or zeno was not considered 2-B or anything like that, mate, all we had was 4D e.e. Now all we'll have is 5D e.e.
 
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007_Sulista said:
do you know that, if we accept the Beerus "feat" against Arale, he would be stronger than Zeno, right?
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I dont think you understood what hes saying.
Beerus being capable of erasing arale will just make zeno stronger than him, because we are explicitly shown that Zeno's EE is better.

There's literally no way this feat is an outlier
 
I mean, Zen'oh should be inherently capable of erasing Arale.

Whis, who witnessed Arale and knew she had gag powers, stated that Zen'oh can erase everything
 
Raskolux said:
NO?

"For example" you can produce 6-C fireballs covered with 4D e.e. This has nothing to do with e.e=physical statistics

We had the same e.e ratings when Arale used to be considered 2-B, and beerus or arale was not considered 2-B or anything like that, mate, all we had was 4D e.e. Now all we'll have is 5D e.e.
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This is how work in DB and my example prove it, Vegeta was tying to do the hakai through AP

Raskolux said:
No, again?

Zeno scales on all kinds of beerus, I think I've explained this in detail.
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Skarfz said:
I dont think you understood what hes saying.
Beerus being capable of erasing arale will just make zeno stronger than him, because we are explicitly shown that Zeno's EE is better.

There's literally no way this feat is an outlier
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And the biggest Zeno feat is weaker than the biggest feat from Arale, it´s simple to understand, Zeno is weaker than Arale and we don´t have reasons to say someone who is weaker than Zeno is stronger than someone who is superior to him
 
007_Sulista said:
This is how work in DB and my example prove it, Vegeta was tying to do the hakai through AP




And the biggest Zeno feat is weaker than the biggest feat from Arale, it´s simple to understand, Zeno is weaker than Arale and we don´t have reasons to say someone who is weaker than Zeno is stronger than someone who is superior to him
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Don't you understand? Or don't you want to understand? e.e≠ap or any other damn statistics. You couldn't prove it by saying that "this is how things work in the db"

Again, while arale was accepted as 2-B on the wiki, it was proceeding according to the logic I mentioned, and beerus or zeno were not 2-B, "all we had" was 4D e.e.


Also, I'm tired of saying this over and over again, no one says zeno>arale? the only thing that happens is that zeno's e.e ignores arale's resistance
 
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Can we not focus on this beerus thing?

There is already a war going on in the IZ crt, and we have people like claver and dread who seem to confuse the fear we use.

For example, always refer to hyperlines as timelines, since that's what the verse treats.

After this IZ crt, I think we should make a small crt to add that note, perhaps.

I mean, I doubt people look at the back page to see that little bit of information.
 
Raskolux said:
Don't you understand? Or don't you want to understand? e.e≠ap or any other damn statistics. You couldn't prove it "by saying that this is how things work in the db" doesn't prove anything

Again, while arale was accepted as 2-B on the wiki, it was proceeding according to the logic I mentioned, and beerus or zeno were not 2-B, "all we had" was 4D e.e.


Also, I'm tired of saying this over and over again, no one says zeno>arale? the only thing that happens is that zeno's e.e ignores arale's resistance
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Ok man i´m tired, i already provide my example to prove my point, let´s stop with it
 
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