All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

[CryoTheMayo]

By the way, does anyone have scans for Dragon Ball Online being canon to Heroes or otherwise having its contents/lore apply?

Yeah found it. I recall it being more transparent though, Towa being shocked to see Trunks probably isn't enough. Perhaps if you had the Japanese version translated you could find hidden context? I only found a Japanese dub, no text.

It's worth noting that Towa and Mira seem to not recognise Goku immediately when Towa instantly knew who Trunks was. Yes, Goku was in Super Saiyan 3 but Towa made Mira using Goku's DNA. Notably Towa knows Trunks well enough to set up his past self's death against the androids. And she does so with Trunks returning to the future after Gohan beats Cell as well.

So this is probably just conjecture but I find it very interesting that Towa immediately recognises Trunks, hides behind Mira, calls him out then immediately deduces he's a different Trunks and knows how to put his existence at risk from multiple points in time (Knows he faced the androids, knows he fought and killed his timeline's Cell) yet she seems to not be totally familiar with Goku's power in Super Saiyan 3.

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

I love how technically speaking, it was Luffy's thread that jumpstarted the chain of events leading to the cosmology upgrade.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

I love how technically speaking, it was Luffy's thread that jumpstarted the chain of events leading to the cosmology upgrade.

I remember the time when i seriously believed in 5D DB thanks to that scan.... Such a dark period for my personal powerscalling opinions

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Do you guys think Dragon Ball Heroes stands a chance against Umineko? I noticed most of their characters have Low 1-C keys, so I thought it'd be interesting to do matches with them.

 

[Brogeefrong]

Do you guys think Dragon Ball Heroes stands a chance against Umineko? I noticed most of their characters have Low 1-C keys, so I thought it'd be interesting to do matches with them.

Pretty sure they are 6D also smurf bs

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Do you guys think Dragon Ball Heroes stands a chance against Umineko? I noticed most of their characters have Low 1-C keys, so I thought it'd be interesting to do matches with them.

Nah they got plot manip + cringe aah aah smurf hax. Standard cringe light novel shit

 

[Huesito88]

Nah they got plot manip + cringe aah aah smurf hax. Standard cringe light novel shit

Correction it's a Visual Novel

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

How many time will pass after the low 1-c revision get approved to someone create a match with Xeno characters or Zeno? I bet in less than a day

 

[CryoTheMayo]

How many time will pass after the low 1-c revision get approved to someone create a match with Xeno characters or Zeno? I bet in less than a day

Less than one hour.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Less than one hour.

I do not doubt it

 

[AwkguyDB]

Goku vs Arceus is in order

 

[CryoTheMayo]

Goku vs Arceus is in order

I get Goku is obviously more important, has the Keysword and everyone would go for him first but I feel like Grand Priest vs Arceus would be more fitting with their divine authorities in Low 1-C cosmologies.

Also if Grand Priest won it'd make up for that really dumb match years ago when DBH was still 2-B and DBH Grand Priest lost to Darkrai because 'sleep hax'.

 

[Magicomethkuon]

To clarify, according to the manga the four greatest beings in existence are:

• Zeno (greatest being in existence according to Whis)
• The Grand Priest ('the mightiest of all beings' according to Whis)
• Super Shenron (can grant any wish according to The Grand Priest)
• Zuno (Not in power but in the fact that he knows everything in the multiverse and the Granolah Saga hammered in that information is equal to power.)

I think that the Grand Priest is the strongest fighter, but Zeno is the strongest because as once said, he doesn't fight. Just ees anything that slightly inconveniences him on sight (and probably along with its whole universe).

 

[Brogeefrong]

How many time will pass after the low 1-c revision get approved to someone create a match with Xeno characters or Zeno? I bet in less than a day

if it wasent for the 6D archie upgrade going on right now i would have done Archie Shadow vs CC Vegeta off the bat when it dropped

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Goku vs Arceus is in order

Good matchup

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

if it wasent for the 6D archie upgrade going on right now i would have done Archie Shadow vs CC Vegeta off the bat when it dropped

Archie upgrade was for the better. You shouldn't be allowed to cook

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

if it wasent for the 6D archie upgrade going on right now i would have done Archie Shadow vs CC Vegeta off the bat when it dropped

The Archie Sonic supremacy will never have a end

 

[CryoTheMayo]

I think that the Grand Priest is the strongest fighter, but Zeno is the strongest because as once said, he doesn't fight. Just ees anything that slightly inconveniences him on sight (and probably along with its whole universe).

I do suspect Toyotaro/Toriyama is setting up a trinity between Grand Priest, Zeno and Super Shenron with them each being the strongest being in different ways. I'd guess it's:

• Grand Priest has the strongest body (mightiest fighter)
• Zeno has the strongest Ki (most powerful being and can end existence on a whim)
• Super Shenron has the strongest magic (its magic can do anything according to Grand Priest and Zeno)

I think that's setup with Ultra Instinct (Grand Priest, Angels, Goku) and Ultra Ego (Zeno, Beerus, Vegeta) so it'd only be lacking the magical component. I could see something like (Zalama, Super Shenron, Piccolo) being a thing.

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

Goku vs Arceus is in order

Xeno Trunks vs Archie Silver run back but on VSBW

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Archie getting upgraded at least means we won't have to deal with that in the first hour of DBH having tier 1 AP and hax

 

[Brogeefrong]

Xeno Trunks vs Archie Silver run back but on VSBW

pretty sure Trunks has his powernull that would just beat silver, especially with the keysword
me wanted vegeta vs shadow cause noone remembers this one!

 

[CryoTheMayo]

I was browsing the manga and stumbled onto an interaction related to Timelines that I don't think anyone brought up. Bulma asks Whis if a timeline was made where Freeza won and Whis states that no parallel world was made because he rewound time, which also risked throwing off the time axis, which is why he refuses to rewind time further than three minutes.

How could this be interpreted? Whis explicitly refers to the time axis being destabilised by him rewinding time. And that the only reason he can't rewind time more often or beyond three minutes is because of destabilising time.

Doesn't this mean Temporal Do-Over is manipulating the overarching timeline, meaning Whis has 5D time hax? Or would this just be interpreted as him rewinding U7's timeline (from the Time Room) and throwing it off course from the other time rooms in the multiverse?

 

[Killerdrone123]

I was browsing the manga and stumbled onto an interaction related to Timelines that I don't think anyone brought up. Bulma asks Whis if a timeline was made where Freeza won and Whis states that no parallel world was made because he rewound time, which also risked throwing off the time axis, which is why he refuses to rewind time further than three minutes.

How could this be interpreted? Whis explicitly refers to the time axis being destabilised by him rewinding time. And that the only reason he can't rewind time more often or beyond three minutes is because of destabilising time.

Doesn't this mean Temporal Do-Over is manipulating the overarching timeline, meaning Whis has 5D time hax? Or would this just be interpreted as him rewinding U7's timeline (from the Time Room) and throwing it off course from the other time rooms in the multiverse?

Yes whis rewinding the overarching timeline is pretty straightforward like I said if they refused to accept it and said he only rewinded time for u7 then this should be added as a further proof of u7 having there own time dimension

 

[Killerdrone123]

I just hate it when people think that dbh characters are just dbs characters but with buff stats and they don't posses any notable haxs

 

[Vietthai96]

I was browsing the manga and stumbled onto an interaction related to Timelines that I don't think anyone brought up. Bulma asks Whis if a timeline was made where Freeza won and Whis states that no parallel world was made because he rewound time, which also risked throwing off the time axis, which is why he refuses to rewind time further than three minutes.

How could this be interpreted? Whis explicitly refers to the time axis being destabilised by him rewinding time. And that the only reason he can't rewind time more often or beyond three minutes is because of destabilising time.

Doesn't this mean Temporal Do-Over is manipulating the overarching timeline, meaning Whis has 5D time hax? Or would this just be interpreted as him rewinding U7's timeline (from the Time Room) and throwing it off course from the other time rooms in the multiverse?

It look more like a chain reaction than something else entirely

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

So DDT dropped his message, and the draft essentially stays the same
He also answered profectus

I'm not sure any more doubts exist

 

[TiltedFN]

were so back

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

I was browsing the manga and stumbled onto an interaction related to Timelines that I don't think anyone brought up. Bulma asks Whis if a timeline was made where Freeza won and Whis states that no parallel world was made because he rewound time, which also risked throwing off the time axis, which is why he refuses to rewind time further than three minutes.

How could this be interpreted? Whis explicitly refers to the time axis being destabilised by him rewinding time. And that the only reason he can't rewind time more often or beyond three minutes is because of destabilising time.

Doesn't this mean Temporal Do-Over is manipulating the overarching timeline, meaning Whis has 5D time hax? Or would this just be interpreted as him rewinding U7's timeline (from the Time Room) and throwing it off course from the other time rooms in the multiverse?

I think this will be seen as more proof for U7 having it's own time axis because the alternative is accepting that angels can destabilize an entire timeline with just their time powers

 

[Hasty12345]

we stay winning
Edit:

Re:evulation of temporal dimension standards

At the moment we'll just have to rewrite the FAQ since the current one doesn't properly convey the intended message. DT stated that he would write a more comprehensive and more understandable draft. I think we can wait for him.

vsbattles.com

maybe spoke too soon

 

[TiltedFN]

we stay winning
Edit:

Re:evulation of temporal dimension standards

At the moment we'll just have to rewrite the FAQ since the current one doesn't properly convey the intended message. DT stated that he would write a more comprehensive and more understandable draft. I think we can wait for him.

vsbattles.com

maybe spoke too soon

huh? Nah were good, read it, this is what i meant when i said that lol. Additional time direction is by default lmao, thats what DT meant. If its a higher time axis, its an additional direction. We don't have to prove sideways time anymore and nobody can say anything.

 

[Reiner04]

So now a timeless void with time dimension would qualify as well? Hmmm.

 

[Hasty12345]

huh? Nah were good, read it, this is what i meant when i said that lol. Additional time direction is by default lmao, thats what DT meant. If its a higher time axis, its an additional direction. We don't have to prove sideways time anymore and nobody can say anything.

I got muddled up.

WE STAY WINNING

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

So now a timeless void with time dimension would qualify as well? Hmmm.

I think he said it's the opposite, it wouldn't because timeless means it's supposed to not have time


However can you ask him if someone adding time and space to a timeless void would count? That's what the GP did basically

 

[Reiner04]

I think he said it's the opposite, it wouldn't because timeless means it's supposed to not have time


However can you ask him if someone adding time and space to a timeless void would count? That's what the GP did basically

I mean, it shouldn't qualify if it was adding time and space.

What I meant is that if Timeless void in real has evidence of lacking time in the show, and is reliable, but still has evidence of being under time that is different from regular time should qualify. Basically, Ben 10's white void before creation of timestream.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Lol geor made our reasoning more solid by creating that thread

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

I mean, it shouldn't qualify if it was adding time and space.

What I meant is that if Timeless void in real has evidence of lacking time in the show, and is reliable, but still has evidence of being under time that is different from regular time should qualify. Basically, Ben 10's white void before creation of timestream.

Oh okay

Then yea

 

[Electronic74947]

we stay winning
Edit:

Re:evulation of temporal dimension standards

At the moment we'll just have to rewrite the FAQ since the current one doesn't properly convey the intended message. DT stated that he would write a more comprehensive and more understandable draft. I think we can wait for him.

vsbattles.com

maybe spoke too soon

Nah, he’s talking about rewording I think

 

[Electronic74947]

We WON BOYS

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

I don't trust like that, I'm waiting till we get the changes applied

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

I can't wait for the downgrade thread and for people who have been completely quiet or silent to suddenly pop up and go I agree