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Actually it'd be 1-A
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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
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1A Heros dropping tomorrow 
Nullflowerblush
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is this more beat and note shit
cuz they live in the future of gt
cuz they live in the future of gt
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Nah, they are Heroversal, Chris told me
Hasty12345
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Chris is the one who made Toriyama write the universal fist clash so Dragon Ball could have universal scaling. He's a puppetmaster, hiding in the shadows, pulling the strings.
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I need some clarification.
GT, Toei, Movies, DBS Anime and DBS Manga all share the same cosmology right? So if the Swirling Lights dimension is accepted as having 6 2-C durability in the DBS Anime, wouldn't that mean it also has 6 2-C durability in the manga unless contradicted?
I'm just wondering because the other day I was arguing for the DBS Manga getting 6 2-C and Clover was saying I lacked evidence to justify the dimension having that 6 2-C durability in the manga as well, but I thought the cosmology was verse-wide? So I feel a bit confused on how the wiki actually treats it.
GT, Toei, Movies, DBS Anime and DBS Manga all share the same cosmology right? So if the Swirling Lights dimension is accepted as having 6 2-C durability in the DBS Anime, wouldn't that mean it also has 6 2-C durability in the manga unless contradicted?
I'm just wondering because the other day I was arguing for the DBS Manga getting 6 2-C and Clover was saying I lacked evidence to justify the dimension having that 6 2-C durability in the manga as well, but I thought the cosmology was verse-wide? So I feel a bit confused on how the wiki actually treats it.
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Chirstal balls
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No...I'm saying I'm trying to argue for it because the Swirling Lights dimension has 6 2-C durability, and I'm just wondering for why it wouldn't be accepted as 6 2-C durability in the manga as well. As I held the impression that the cosmology was treated as shared across parallel worlds.
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They live in Japan/Beat’s World but he’s a descendant of the Goku from the “Real World” as they legitimately do view the arcade as fake since the arcade was made to revisit the goku and db events
But Beat’s World isn’t the actual Real World but its real to Beat
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Pretty sure because even though it’s fiction from their pov the arcade is just a window to an alternate timeline of the same overarching cosmic hierarchy, beats world just happens to resemble real life the most of them all.
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Is the arcades events representing historical events in beats world?
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Wait I might be wrong about this but isn't beats world future timeline for db but they made the arcade game based on z warriors and beats and his friends enter that arcade game so beats world show r>f transcendence for the game cause they call it a game many times and I dont think that arcade game is a time machine
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I think that the events of Goku in the arcade are based off the real goku, but I’d have to ask Zenkai as I’m not entirely sure.
Huh?
Killerdrone123
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Basically I was saying that beats world is a future timeline of db but they made an arcade game based on past z warrior and beat enters that arcade game
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That’s just immersion
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Killerdrone123
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Can you elaborate? Doesn't this kinda prove my point that beats world views the arcade game as fiction since immersion is basically crossing the boundary between reality and fiction
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The arcade game world in this case would be a qualitatively inferior world to the baseline world making it at most 2-D
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it is 0D actually 
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Infinite levels of infinity below baseline 0D
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WM's Arcade World can't be 2-D, as it's stated to be real more than once.
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Wouldn't the arcade game have it's own cosmology like macrocosms and timelines which would be 4d and beat just views them as fiction.
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No it’d just be a fictional representative of it and being less real wouldn’t remove any dimensional axis just make one qualitatively inferior to where it would equate to 2-D in power and existence (this will probably be changed in ultimas thread to equate to “1-A level of inferiority”)
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There wouldn’t be a R>F difference in first place if it’s portrayed as real.
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The Arcade World is real once you get inside it. You need avatars to go there, though.
But yeah, not 2-D, in verse statements and basically all of WM's lore contradict that notion.
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Is it more like SAO?
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Something like that I think Zenkai more knowledgeable than me I just know things to a certain and I don’t wanna get things wrong
It’s real for the people in the arcade it’s just the people of Beat’s world view it as fake since it’s an arcade game
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The perfect matchup doesn’t exi—
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I found this blog post by him that goes over the hierarchy with scans.
The hierarchy he proposes seems to be:
The Real World (Us, Tori-bot is placed here, views rest as fiction) -> Charisma Mission (The avatars of IRL producers observing SDBH as a fictional world) -> Beat's World (Perceives all of DB as fictional and plays the SDBH arcade game, SDBH characters threaten this world with their power) -> 'The Real World' (A fictional version of real life that exists in SDBH and views the rest of SDBH as fictional) -> SDBH (The actual Dragon Ball multiverse)
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I’m pretty sure Arcade Japan/“The Real World” is in Beat’s World, but to clarify it’s technically not the true real world as the true real world is beyond everything including the charismas
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we'd be above tori-bot, tori-bot is a character that represents toriyama.
unless you wanna say you can't rip a piece of paper in half or erase arale from the plot of doctor slump
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Akira toriyama> Tori-bot
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I scale above Toriyama confirmed.
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