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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

What is happening? I come now that there is a mess with JoJo fan and DB fan, but what is really going on?

What will that crt change?
 
Idk man this is just pathetic as **** we are literally debating and being pedantic over the most basic, most consistent multipliers and scaling aspects of the verse

people here would rather argue and stonewall pointlessly to stop a 0.1 yottaton upgrade that is perfectly consistent with established scaling and multipliers than just be done with it once and for all
 
It's explained why there's such a fight, these multipliers always cause fights, i don't understand anything about multipliers, i will be watching.
 
I’m pretty sure this is old and I already asked this once but is there a DBS manga scaling chain that my ***** ass forgot was already answered? I’m stupid as **** but I completely forgot where it was
 
Current Attack Potency I have for DBS Bardock:

“At least Moon level (Should be superior to the Cerealian who destroyed planet Cereal's Moon. Stronger than Monaito, who has a power level of 213, putting him above an early Z Krillin), likely Small Planet Level, (as he is considered by Gas to be stronger than Low-Class Saiyans, making him nearer in power to Mid-Class Saiyan Warriors such as Raditz as an the Uppermost Low-Class Warrior. Should also at least be superior to Unweighted Early Saiyan Saga Goku and Piccolo, Jaco, and Frieza Force Grunts.) At least Planet Level with Oozaru, higher with Limits Broken.”

What are we thinking?
 
RedReaper said:
Current Attack Potency I have for DBS Bardock:

“At least Moon level (Should be superior to the Cerealian who destroyed planet Cereal's Moon. Stronger than Monaito, who has a power level of 213, putting him above an early Z Krillin), likely Small Planet Level, (as he is considered by Gas to be stronger than Low-Class Saiyans, making him nearer in power to Mid-Class Saiyan Warriors such as Raditz as an the Uppermost Low-Class Warrior. Should also at least be superior to Unweighted Early Saiyan Saga Goku and Piccolo, Jaco, and Frieza Force Grunts.) At least Planet Level with Oozaru, higher with Limits Broken.”

What are we thinking?
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Justifications are fine, just wait until the AP thread is done
 
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Massive Dragon Ball Super Downgrade

Nah, not really. The title is somewhat of an exaggeration as only a few characters should be affected by this. This primarily concerns the manga continuity of Dragon Ball Super and the current scaling chains we have for the characters that currently has it so that virtually everyone is scaling...
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RedReaper said:
Current Attack Potency I have for DBS Bardock:

“At least Moon level (Should be superior to the Cerealian who destroyed planet Cereal's Moon. Stronger than Monaito, who has a power level of 213, putting him above an early Z Krillin), likely Small Planet Level, (as he is considered by Gas to be stronger than Low-Class Saiyans, making him nearer in power to Mid-Class Saiyan Warriors such as Raditz as an the Uppermost Low-Class Warrior. Should also at least be superior to Unweighted Early Saiyan Saga Goku and Piccolo, Jaco, and Frieza Force Grunts.) At least Planet Level with Oozaru, higher with Limits Broken.”

What are we thinking?
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Also helps Bardock is implied to have fought Freiza force grunts and survived off screen in the Broly movie
 
I don't doubt that someone will try to make the Universes 3-A again and with the excuse of saying that all Universes have the same space-time.
 
Spinoirr said:
Also helps Bardock is implied to have fought Freiza force grunts and survived off screen in the Broly movie
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Elaborate. Clarify.

Also, going over the justifications, I do want to say that Paragus was considered Low Class in the film by King Vegeta, so do we apply his PL into that range? The reason I ask is because he was at 4,200 in the film (at old age), which would put him above NAPPA, a Mid-Class Saiyan, despite the fact he is likely weaker than his Adult Self due to the detoriation of the Saiyan Body and it's strength once it passes it's agelessness limit at 80.

Obviously this is an inconsistency, but I'm trying to find an in-lore reason as to why it is. Currently, my thinking is that Nappa and Raditz's ranks were bolstered a tad because they were the sole remaining Saiyans besides Vegeta, since Vegeta himself in Manga also considers Raditz to be Low Class when he dies to Piccolo. That or it's just standard Royalty Bluster, but it doesn't make much sense to me to be that since KV didn't seem to have a problem with any other children in that area.
 
RedReaper said:
Elaborate. Clarify.

Also, going over the justifications, I do want to say that Paragus was considered Low Class in the film by King Vegeta, so do we apply his PL into that range? The reason I ask is because he was at 4,200 in the film (at old age), which would put him above NAPPA, a Mid-Class Saiyan, despite the fact he is likely weaker than his Adult Self due to the detoriation of the Saiyan Body and it's strength once it passes it's agelessness limit at 80.

Obviously this is an inconsistency, but I'm trying to find an in-lore reason as to why it is. Currently, my thinking is that Nappa and Raditz's ranks were bolstered a tad because they were the sole remaining Saiyans besides Vegeta, since Vegeta himself in Manga also considers Raditz to be Low Class when he dies to Piccolo. That or it's just standard Royalty Bluster, but it doesn't make much sense to me to be that since KV didn't seem to have a problem with any other children in that area.
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Isn't nappa closer to 8000 at full power? Based on his fight with Goku after he called down?
 
BlastX said:
Same reason Vegerot went Super Saiyan against Buuhan even though he had the upper hand in base.

***** and giggles.

Although IIRC Goku wasn't doing so hot against Ledgic until he went Super Saiyan.
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Goku had the upper hand(ish) until he got kicked in the stomach then ping pong for like a few seconds
 
Jaakor48 said:
Isn't nappa closer to 8000 at full power? Based on his fight with Goku after he called down?
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He's close enough to make Goku struggle at 8000 without Kaioken, but we don't know his exact numbers from any in story dialogue. However, we know that officially, he's 4000 from the Daizenshuu, the DB Volume Q&A, and Weekly Shonen Jump. Implying that Nappa was keeping up not via stats, but his own will to fight and training.

Edit: Included sources.
 
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