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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

1-A seems like a stretch, I understand that, my post wasn’t to say that it is undoubtedly 1-A eitherway. But there is no way that statement is any lower then Low 1-C.

If one were to interpret it as a transcendence of the dimensions that have been shown to exist, then that would be clear cut Low 1-C, if one is to interpret it as a transcendence over the realms below it, it would still be Low 1-C.
 
She said her eyes couldn't follow him tho, same eyes were what she used her analytical technique through, implying that her precog itself failed completely
Interesting could be the case,but we can see goku has increased his speed followed by her quote that her eyes couldn't follow means she can't even see goku properly moreover react to him
 
Saying your transcendent by being adimensional is not enough, additional context and explanation to prove it is to the sufficient quantitative level is needed.
 
A non-dimensional physiology lacks the very properties of a dimensional thing, so something that is non-dimensional purely due to it's superiority over dimensionality is 1-A. So the Afterlife which "transcends dimensions", would be on the "superiority" bit and not the "alienness" bit, the problem then lies in what dimensions in this context means.

Dimensions, as repeatedly used in both daizenshuu and Dragon Ball is a reference to realms and universes, however, if we assume dimensions here to be a reference to dimensionality as a whole, then the Afterlife would transcend them, and would definitely have no dimensional property. So it's between Low 1-C and 1-A, you can't really get any lower with a statement like that.

There is another translation however, that claims a superiority over dimensionality as a whole, which would obviously leave no room for interpretation and be a clear cut case of qualitative superiority, thus 1-A.
There is a mention where it is said that the other world lacks the concept of time, it is even mentioned in the manga.
Is that something related to this?
 
If you are superior to something purely due to your non-dimensional nature, that is QS, that's something we know for certain, as that the character in question is superior to a things dimensions due to it not having the same properties that this things dimensions are dependent on, so that can't be assumed to be reachable by any additional dimensions. I believe you posted a quote of a section in Ultimas thread that constantly reaffirmed that.

I'm fine with seeing the Afterlife as transcendent over whatever dimensions have been shown to exist with the previous translation, though, and I do question why we don't already accept that as higher-D.
 
There is a mention where it is said that the other world lacks the concept of time, it is even mentioned in the manga.
Is that something related to this?
The scan does not say that in the other world there is no time in the literal sense.

It says that time is not a thing, since Goku has no time limit with SSJ3 unlike the living world (when he is dead)

I asked a colleague to translate it and I posted it here several days ago.
 
The scan does not say that in the other world there is no time in the literal sense.

It says that time is not a thing, since Goku has no time limit with SSJ3 unlike the living world (when he is dead)

I asked a colleague to translate it and I posted it here several days ago.
Nice, how many days ago was it? I want to see it xd
 
Nice, how many days ago was it? I want to see it xd
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Goku is talking in the context of time being something that has an effect on the mortal world
Since in Afterlife, there is no risk of timeouts
 
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Goku is talking in the context of time being something that has an effect on the mortal world
Since in Afterlife, there is no risk of timeouts
Goku learned Ssj3 was it in heaven? I think if so, this would further explain that Heaven and the afterlife are separated by space-time, since there is kind of a need for there to be a space-time separating the Universe from the other
 
I was thinking that Senbei Norimaki should have a page in Battle Vs since she could be classified as "Super genius" in intelligence which would make Bulma also obtain such a level of intelligence since Senbei himself claims that she was smarter than him for creating the dragon radar.
 
Goku learned Ssj3 was it in heaven? I think if so, this would further explain that Heaven and the afterlife are separated by space-time, since there is kind of a need for there to be a space-time separating the Universe from the other
So it Goku basically saying that the afterlife is unaffected by the flow of time in the living world?
How can you read something simple and extrapolate it as much as possible?

The translator is saying that time has an effect in the mortal world, because Goku literally has a time limit to stay in the mortal world.

Seriously, just look at the translator's second sentence.
"Since in Afterlife, there is no risk of timeouts"
 
How can you read something simple and extrapolate it as much as possible?

The translator is saying that time has an effect in the mortal world, because Goku literally has a time limit to stay in the mortal world.

Seriously, just look at the translator's second sentence.
"Since in Afterlife, there is no risk of timeouts"
It makes total sense
 
How can you read something simple and extrapolate it as much as possible?

The translator is saying that time has an effect in the mortal world, because Goku literally has a time limit to stay in the mortal world.

Seriously, just look at the translator's second sentence.
"Since in Afterlife, there is no risk of timeouts"
Meaning it does not have an effect in the afterlife


Not sure how I "extrapolated" anything or what else that statement I'd supposed to imply
 
Meaning it does not have an effect in the afterlife


Not sure how I "extrapolated" anything or what else that statement I'd supposed to imply
You are only taking part of the sentence, not considering the context and putting it in the most literal sense possible.

The translator is just saying that Goku is making reference to his time limit on earth, and how he can't use SSJ in the living world because it speeds up the time limit he has for him to stay in the living world.
 
I think now it makes total sense about Black mentioning different Universes and parallel worlds



It's actually very specific with his own lines and other versions of him coming out of the space-time rift, I think those Black are from different parallel worlds and Universes, since each change creates a new parallel world, Black opens about three cracks in the time






Now everything fits perfectly
 
Thread needs traction
 
i mean dark ki gives a resistance to everything yhwach has, or was it the dark factor?
Dark ki gives you resistance to many things, but not extreme many things.

Yhwach would still be able to use a lot of skills.

But it wouldn't have the semi-passives that he uses most on the character with the opponent having dark ki + demonic physiology.

The problem is Gremmy's abilities, like death manipulation, which I don't see any resistance for these guys.

But kind of Yhwach's initial set (precognition, fate hax, causality hax, power nullification) would be resisted.
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Using a character with Time Power would be unfeasible, which would be a smurf.

And a Saiyan, he would have RE, which would probably end up resisting everything from Yhwach.
 
Dark ki gives you resistance to many things, but not extreme many things.

Yhwach would still be able to use a lot of skills.

But it wouldn't have the semi-passives that he uses most on the character with the opponent having dark ki + demonic physiology.

The problem is Gremmy's abilities, like death manipulation, which I don't see any resistance for these guys.

But kind of Yhwach's initial set (precognition, fate hax, causality hax, power nullification) would be resisted.
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Using a character with Time Power would be unfeasible, which would be a smurf.

And a Saiyan, he would have RE, which would probably end up resisting everything from Yhwach.
yhwach doesn't even have all shrifts, so he wouldn't have gremmys abilities in the first place.
 
yhwach doesn't even have all shrifts, so he wouldn't have gremmys abilities in the first place.
He has? He has a key just for that.
 
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