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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

Aren't there supposed to be a huge T2 revision where universal counts no longer gives a different AP and only scaling chain matters?

Because all of Tier 2 is just Infinite 4D.
 
SYPHe5D said:
We should consider doing this^ at some point.
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Let's not beat around the bush, it's moving the goalposts plain and simple. Honestly there shouldn't even be a discussion rule to prevent it (just common decency) but unfortunately good faith is at a premium here.
 
Jaakor48 said:
It's probably that way cuz you'll hardly see any author actually quantifying the distance between universes
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AP of explosions don't become stronger just because they propogate through distance between universes. This is true. I have never seen this in fiction.

inverse square law of distance matters zero at that point.
 
yea i dont like Tier 2 too.
imagine calling a being who destroyed thousands of Universes weak cause it didnt mention "space-time"
 
GilverTheProtoAngelo said:
AP of explosions don't become stronger just because they propogate through distance between universes. This is true. I have never seen this in fiction.

inverse square law of distance matters zero at that point.
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Applying inverse square law which relies on distance which relies on space, on an attack that destroys space and time....
 
RedReaper said:
Yeah, but that’s not due to potency. Hit’s Time powers come from his ability to essentially create his own pocket of stored time. Him using it in a Timeless Void, for example, would work be due to the fact he’s bringing Time with him to begin with. That said, there would probably be no time for him to accumulate in his Dimension when used there. (Though, obviously, Hit wouldn’t be able to use his powers due to being unable to move. This is just a hypothetical.)

Similarly, Whis outright says he can (and story straight implies he does) travel through time WITHOUT the aid of a Time Machine. Meaning Whis’ travel and/or control over time isn’t bounded by the current one he is in. This makes sense, considering the Grand Priest MADE Time in the WoV for people to experience.
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Thats interesting
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
I wake up and see a mess of time this and direction that and all that nonsense and it only proves my point regarding how Tier 1 is hard to get into and even harder to maintain because even those who we consider "knowledgeable" on the subject have different opinions on some level and the standards they set aren't easy to understand but get worse once a verse reaches the standards (Dragon Ball), now it's some misinterpreting nonsense which starts another conversation that bulks up the standards even more with some of the knowledgeable members unable to give use an example of verses that follow the standards. I'll be shocked if Dragon Ball even makes it to Tier 1 let alone sustains it.

This is why I'm just going to give up on Tier 1 entirely for evaluating, standards are constantly shifting, I see why other staff don't bother. But I'm honestly tired of Tier 1 who ha. Is there any news on the latest Dragon Ball series other than the stuff previously announced?
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Isn't it weird how there isn't one consistent standard?

As for the series I don't think so. I though it was coming in January but it looks more like end of 2024 sad. At least the beam clash looked fantastic.
 
The_Axiom_of_Virgo said:
Let's not beat around the bush, it's moving the goalposts plain and simple. Honestly there shouldn't even be a discussion rule to prevent it (just common decency) but unfortunately good faith is at a premium here.
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Let’s be real here, most of the standard changes that had been done recently were not in a good faith, aside from like 1 or 2.
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
Oh this I can agree with, I'm not a fan of the infinite gap between a single universe and two in terms of power but hey it's easier than Tier 1.

Also does anyone have any plans to fix up more of the movie profiles?
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You mean Jamemba and co? Also no idea why there isn't a canon series with their stories. Make a new realm for Hirudegam, an arc in hell for Jamemba. Did I miss anyone important?
 
SYPHe5D said:
Let’s be real here, most of the standard changes that had been done recently were not in a good faith, aside from like 1 or 2.
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YO pal what are you doing here. This ain't DMC. Didn't know you were into DB at all.

Also it's okay. I would trade tier 1 dragonball for some new content to watch....Toriyama will die and with it the verse. Or it will be the first marvel like project in Japan.
 
Serlock_Holmes said:
You mean Jamemba and co? Also no idea why there isn't a canon series with their stories. Make a new realm for Hirudegam, an arc in hell for Jamemba. Did I miss anyone important?
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Yeah I ment Janemba and co. I was wondering if they had all the scans and references because last time I checked I don't know if they did. Well Gogeta and Broly made it into canon, it's possible potentially other popular movie characters could.
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
Yeah I ment Janemba and co. I was wondering if they had all the scans and references because last time I checked I don't know if they did. Well Gogeta and Broly made it into canon, it's possible potentially other popular movie characters could.
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For the profiles I don't know. Haven't really worked on anything in the wiki. For the characters I can't for the life of me imagine why they won't do that. They are iconic characters that they can use to enrich their stories like with Broly.

SYPHe5D said:
Im a fan of like 5 different series than dmc lol, it is like my 3rd fav.
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Fair it's my third favorite anime. No idea about general whole series placement. They are also pretty high as far as games are concerned though lately my main interests are Vampire Survivors and Idle games. Might pick up the games again when I upgrade from potato. What are the other ones?
 
ProfectusInfinity said:
Otherworld is already 5-D for transcending dimensions though
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Ngl, all the standard flipping and one day after a site-wide standard change is just flipping mods's perception of what it even is in the first place. So many interpretations across all knowledgable members which is likely why people overly quote Ultima and DT to potentially satisfy the both of them, frankly I'm surprised some of the mods even are in the boat of accepting them when it changes in a day.
 
Also, anything below Tier 2 is alot more interesting to deal with, especially when you dont have to indulge constantly into the cosmology blogs to make sure they're at equal Universes, because if it isn't its a automatic one shot... then there's the haxlord matches that make it who has biggest layer in X and Y which means they achieve Z. However, its a neccessary poison like FRA train; its impossible to avoid and change them. They're just built different.
 
MusicRelaxing said:
Ngl, all the standard flipping and one day after a site-wide standard change is just flipping mods's perception of what it even is in the first place. So many interpretations across all knowledgable members which is likely why people overly quote Ultima and DT to potentially satisfy the both of them, frankly I'm surprised some of the mods even are in the boat of accepting them when it changes in a day.
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As knowledgeable as DT and Ultima are, makes one wonder about the future of dimensional tiering. When inevitably, comes the day where both of them decide to leave. Many things are often solved by seeking their advice and until it comes it is not.
 
Magicomethkuon said:
As knowledgeable as DT and Ultima are, makes one wonder about the future of dimensional tiering. When inevitably, comes the day where both of them decide to leave. Many things are often solved by seeking their advice and until it comes it is not.
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tbh that's literally what I've been thinking about. They'd probably outright need to be reworked entirely for people to even pretend to understand it if there's no one who can truly answer this sort of thing.
 
Magicomethkuon said:
As knowledgeable as DT and Ultima are, makes one wonder about the future of dimensional tiering. When inevitably, comes the day where both of them decide to leave. Many things are often solved by seeking their advice and until it comes it is not.
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Yep; fully agree with this, thats why I would rather have things set fully into the stone, have all the new and old staff understand so we don't have to seek the retired for assistance.
 
CryoTheMayo said:
Pretty sure it's only been a bit over 24 hours. Grace is 48 hours long.
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