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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

ChronoULT said:
I think Yuki was well represented with Trunks's Spirit Sword, and possibly Ribrianne's power of love may come from that too. In that sense, Shoki is the only concept that hasn't been used to create a Genki Dama, I wonder if we will see something similar in the future
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I think yūki is like Goku and Krilin when fighting physical illusions made of fear that haunts the deepest recesses of their hearts by controlling their Ki and thoughts, back when they were in the Forest of Terror
 
Nullflowerblush said:
The Kamikaze Fireballs use the Power of Love, which is magic. I wrote an article on it.
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Can we resist the manipulation of fragrance as well as someone who resists the effects of the Light of Love? I'm honestly asking this because I see some characters have resistance to fragrance manipulation because he's not affected by the side effects of fragrance-based hax
 
Nullflowerblush said:
I hate that Yūki thing, with the Daizenshuu 2 saying that Goku gave Ki to Gohan. He was holding back because he was afraid of damaging the Earth, and Goku reminded him that even if he did, the Dragon Balls could repair the damage, and then he stopped holding back.
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You could argue that Yūki is represented earlier on, like how Gohan’s cowardice in his youth kept him from accessing even the power he already acquired via his training. Or how the cowardly Frieza soldiers couldn’t utilize Ki correctly and instead used rifles to harness their energy.

You could also argue that Yūki directly ties into right-mindedness (Shōki). Like when Tienshinhan in the 22nd Ten. was directly harmed emotionally, he also decreased in power. It’s also presumably the differentiating factor outside of skill when it comes to characters of identical power. And it also is potentially part of what Goku was referring to in the Buu Saga when it came to Gohan’s power, since he seemed incredibly confident the Hybrid could just get all his power back outside of just his standard rage boosts—(Literally some of his suggestions were channeling his feelings and controlling his thoughts, not throwing another tantrum).
 
RedReaper said:
Would it not be that they’re merely observing time flow in the Living World? I mean, that’s literally what they do with the HTC, which has its own unique and separate time flow too. (Old Kai and Whis).
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Yeah, I don’t think time propagating identically between separate spaces has ever debunked multiple space-times (though that talking point comes up in every “3-A macrocosm” downgrade you’ll see).

I feel like it would more-so contradict Otherworld being low 1-C via transcending time. The idea is that there would be no need for Goku to rush to the Living World in the Saiyan Saga if it were outside time, because from the afterlife’s perspective, no time would pass for the Living World (or maybe the Afterlife would view the Living World’s past/present/future simultaneously).

I’m a pretty big proponent of 5-D afterlife personally (though that’s one of the most controversial ideas in all of contemporary Vs Debating), but contradictions like these specifically would make that impossible for this site.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
I was talking about Demon King Piccolo, but after awhile I remembered that he was created through fissioning. So by being "Kami's evil", he is literally just a clone of the Nameless Namekian.
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Buu Evil must fit that description, as he is made from the evil of humans and the evil personality of Fat Buu.
 
Fezzih_007 said:
Limited BFR (Freeza blasted bardock with ki attack with such power it was able to send him into the past before even freeza was born[3])

🗿 How the heck is this limited?
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I also ask myself the same question, Freeza released Bardock a thousand years in the past and still think it's limited?
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
I also ask myself the same question, Freeza released Bardock a thousand years in the past and still think it's limited?
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It is Limited because simple, if Bardock got blasted back to the past, then also the Planet Vegeta too, since both the Planet and Bardock got blasted by the same ki blast, why only Bardock, secondly if Frieza can truly do that, he should also able to blast everyone else to the past with his every ki blasts. Anyway, this tbf isn't BFR at all, just plot convenience
 
Vietthai96 said:
It is Limited because simple, if Bardock got blasted back to the past, then also the Planet Vegeta too, since both the Planet and Bardock got blasted by the same ki blast, why only Bardock, secondly if Frieza can truly do that, he should also able to blast everyone else to the past with his every ki blasts. Anyway, this tbf isn't BFR at all, just plot convenience
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Now all makes sense
 
No, no you see it all makes sense. The Saiyans didn't exist in the past, Freeza sent them to the past with his Supernova. It's a time loop so Freeza ended up making his own worst nightmare. Also the reason it never happens afterwards is because Freeza just never uses that version of Supernova ever again, he never had a need to. If he had used the Supernova instead of Death Ball on Namek the entire planet would have vanished into the distant past and Goku would be dead in space.

Very sensible addition.
 
Serlock_Holmes said:
Did goku use air to hit Jiren?
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tbf, to me it look more like he release the heat from his body to attacks, visual wise it doesn't look like air, and UI is stated to generate intense heat
CryoTheMayo said:
No, no you see it all makes sense. The Saiyans didn't exist in the past, Freeza sent them to the past with his Supernova. It's a time loop so Freeza ended up making his own worst nightmare. Also the reason it never happens afterwards is because Freeza just never uses that version of Supernova ever again, he never had a need to. If he had used the Supernova instead of Death Ball on Namek the entire planet would have vanished into the distant past and Goku would be dead in space.

Very sensible addition.
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Then it should also send the almost half of Planet Vegeta into the past, also the whole send Bardock into the past is just Toei made up thing iirc, this thing got retcon left and right
 
I legit can’t stand 2-C Pan. How come we have 2-C Pan but only 4-B Toei Cell, when the layer actually possesses universal statements? Which one sounds crazier?
 
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