All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

[Huesito88]

*intelligent life which is insane even for ficition standards. Most of the time its just empty planets or planets with life but not intelligent life.

And Dragonball got 28 of them.

Not insane if it's confirmed there's infinite planets

 

[Jinsama]

Not insane if it's confirmed there's infinite planets

But what if they confirm that said planets with intelligent life are infinite in size?

 

[Huesito88]

But what if they confirm that said planets with intelligent life are infinite in size?

That literally would not make any sense unless greater (both infinites are still 3-D) infinities are confirmed.

 

[Jinsama]

That literally would not make any sense unless greater (both infinites are still 3-D) infinities are confirmed.

Dragonball just doin dragonball things

You have someone like Goku who can destroy a universe but he cant lift a planet

 

[Huesito88]

Dragonball just doin dragonball things

You have someone like Goku who can destroy a universe but he cant lift a planet

I 100 percent would bet all my money that even if they actually legit state what you were saying earlier about infinite size 3-D aliens such a statement would then be followed by 100 visual scans contradicting such a statement with Goku probably traveling from one arm to the other arm of the alien while the gang including Yamaha manage to watch Goku go from one side of the aliens arm to the other

 

[Jinsama]

I 100 percent would bet all my money that even if they actually legit state what you were saying earlier about infinite size 3-D aliens such a statement would then be followed by 100 visual scans contradicting such a statement with Goku probably traveling from one arm to the other arm of the alien while the gang including Yamaha manage to watch Goku go from one side of the aliens arm to the other

We still got infinite galaxies so i can live with it.

You mean Yamcha? Maybe infinite speed via KI sensing with some PIS

 

[RinneItachi]

More specifically, he wants to expand the Dragon Ball franchise and not let it die out like it did before for around 16 years. Except in his eyes, the top execs are playing around so he wants to get the work done himself. For example, the execs were planning to use AI and Meta, and uh, he didn't take too kindly to that, so he straight up QUIT and moved on to make his own company. Similarly, he apparently was so interested in making a SandLand production (which wasn't getting greenlit) he just MADE ONE HIMSELF, WITHOUT TELLING ANYBODY. I don't know HOW that works, since corporations are MASSIVE with THOUSANDS of connecting arms and employees, (hence why the public gets leaks so often), but he was able to do that, SOMEHOW. Because that's just the kinda guy he is. As put in this article: "He's always been dedicated to the AUTHOR and the WORK, FIRST AND FOREMOST, for BETTER and for WORSE."

Which sounds like he's basically Sakurai, but for V-Jump and with the absolute massive balls to just say "**** you," to his corporate overlords instead of being strongarmed (as Sakurai was to make sequels, as they greenlit and started working behind the scenes without him, announced it, and only THEN came to ask him to work on it, under the pretense of "If you don't, we'll make the sequel to YOUR GAME, WITHOUT YOU." Which I DON'T blame him for letting himself get roped into, because I would do the same, honestly.)

Kinda chaddy tbh. But on the flipside everything must end someday. I don't like milking old franchises well beyond their prime, but I also don't want DB to die any time soon. If he keeps it going without disrespecting the GOAT's legacy I'm all for it. And I love that he's giving the finger to the corporate money bugs.

I still think that DB could really do a good take on the what-if genre. There is literally a community of people that make DB what-if stories. And if Marvel can make a profitable show on it I know DB could.

 

[CBslayeR]

BASED DB SAME VERSE MU, PART 2

yall not fw south kai vs goku? i thought vsbw was based...

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

We still got infinite galaxies so i can live with it.

You mean Yamcha? Maybe infinite speed via KI sensing with some PIS

Nah even though we got 10+ statements from daizenshuu’s and chozenshuus, if you actually take a look at the macrocosms. You can see that it’s finite notably at the end of the bubble sphere that we see. Also, they’re literally touching so it’s actually 3-A at best.

 

[Ryzen7900X]

Nah even though we got 10+ statements from daizenshuu’s and chozenshuus, if you actually take a look at the macrocosms. You can see that it’s finite notably at the end of the bubble sphere that we see. Also, they’re literally touching so it’s actually 3-A at best.

nah the visual clearly shows one galaxy, so the macrocosm is 3-C at best and goku and beerus are at best 5-B for shaking a galaxy with shockwaves that got stronger so they dont really scale to it

 

[Omegabronic]

Nah even though we got 10+ statements from daizenshuu’s and chozenshuus, if you actually take a look at the macrocosms. You can see that it’s finite notably at the end of the bubble sphere that we see. Also, they’re literally touching so it’s actually 3-A at best.

let's just hope that visual gets officially rejected in the current thread and then we can 100% get it

 

[Huesito88]

let's just hope that visual gets officially rejected in the current thread and then we can 100% get it

Infinite size universe DBS possibly?

 

[TiltedFN]

let's just hope that visual gets officially rejected in the current thread and then we can 100% get it

The visual is not a contradiction, idk why I have to keep saying this. It wasn't a contradiction until y'all forced it to be.

 

[Ryzen7900X]

let's just hope that visual gets officially rejected in the current thread and then we can 100% get it

rejected information simply cant be used. whoever does it would be breaking the rule. They'd need to wait like 2 months i think before making a crt to change it again if they want to

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Whatcha'll gon' do when Daima assigns the universe a numerical length?

 

[Huesito88]

Whatcha'll gon' do when Daima assigns the universe a numerical length?

Wow I can't believe those 3-C Universe sized DBZ guys were right all along

 

[Omegabronic]

The visual is not a contradiction, idk why I have to keep saying this. It wasn't a contradiction until y'all forced it to be.

"Y'all"? Don't put me into that

 

[Ryzen7900X]

Whatcha'll gon' do when Daima assigns the universe a numerical length?

a radius of 93 octillion lightyears? makes no difference

 

[TiltedFN]

"Y'all"? Don't put me into that

You're apart of it

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

Whatcha'll gon' do if Daima assigns the universe a numerical length?

Big if. If it happens though, then sure? I highly doubt that’d happen since its something mentioned in the daizenshuu and chozenshuu multiple times. The chozenshuu content toriyama looked over himself to get reapproved in. It’s like if I said what if Daima states that SSJ is a 21x multiplier.

 

[Hasty12345]

The visual is not a contradiction, idk why I have to keep saying this. It wasn't a contradiction until y'all forced it to be.

The universe isn't stated to have a center and an edge in canon or anything.

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

The universe isn't stated to have a center and an edge in canon or anything.

That’s not a contradiction. You have to ignore the basic concept of infinity to say it is.

You can have an infinite amount of numbers between 1 and 2 and the amount is infinite. The distance from the edge and center would just be an infinite distance. The same way the numbers between 1.5 and 2 is still infinite.

Just learn up a bit on mathematics and maybe we’ll see if there’s any real contradictions in the future.

Looks like you need to improve your education (this is a joke don’t take this seriously just wanted to mimic Ryzen)

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Nah even though we got 10+ statements from daizenshuu’s and chozenshuus, if you actually take a look at the macrocosms. You can see that it’s finite notably at the end of the bubble sphere that we see. Also, they’re literally touching so it’s actually 3-A at best.

Opponents' best argument: hyperbole

 

[Ryzen7900X]

That’s not a contradiction. You have to ignore the basic concept of infinity to say it is.

You can have an infinite amount of numbers between 1 and 2 and the amount is uncountable. The distance from the edge and center would just be an infinite distance. The same way the distance between 1.5 and 2 is still infinite.

nah that's a countable infinity

Just learn up a bit on mathematics and maybe we’ll see if there’s any real contradictions in the future.

Looks like you need to improve your education (this is a joke don’t take this seriously just wanted to mimic Ryzen)

he's learning algebraic geometry. he's on the right track actually

 

[Hasty12345]

That’s not a contradiction. You have to ignore the basic concept of infinity to say it is.

You can have an infinite amount of numbers between 1 and 2 and the amount is uncountable. The distance from the edge and center would just be an infinite distance. The same way the distance between 1.5 and 2 is still infinite.

Just learn up a bit on mathematics and maybe we’ll see if there’s any real contradictions in the future.

Looks like you need to improve your education (this is a joke don’t take this seriously just wanted to mimic Ryzen)

Show me an infinite universe statement in canon. The guides are contradicted. You can misrepresent the math all day long, it will never change the fact Super does not have an infinite universe.

But it's not surprising when Super is written by a bunch of people who don't know anything about DB.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

The universe isn't stated to have a center and an edge in canon or anything.

You can't talk like that either, since the underworld has an ending and said to be infinite, an infinity that has an end

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

Show me an infinite universe statement in canon. The guides are contradicted. You can misrepresent the math all day long, it will never change the fact Super does not have an infinite universe.

But it's not surprising when Super is written by a bunch of people who don't know anything about DB.

Show me a statement of it being contradicted. I’m not misrepresenting math, I just gave you an example how the amount of numbers between 2 points can be infinite. Even on a line graph, if you have point (1,0) and point (2,0) you could put an infinite amount of points between the 2. Like (1.11,0) and (1.111,0). Facts don’t care about your feelings. If you can’t find a real contradiction and argue out of incredibility you won’t be taken serious.

 

[Hasty12345]

You can't talk like that either, since the underworld has an ending and said to be infinite, an infinity that has an end

Rent free.

 

[Ryzen7900X]

Show me an infinite universe statement in canon.

the guides are canon

The guides are contradicted.

how?

You can misrepresent the math all day long,

he misrepresented nothing sounds like you really need to improve your education

it will never change the fact Super does not have an infinite universe.

when did this become a fact?

But it's not surprising when Super is written by a bunch of people who don't know anything about DB.

are you suggesting that Toriyama himself and Toyotarou who basically made a career out of being a famous fan manga artist enough to be picked by Toriyama know nothing of DB? seriously?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Show me an infinite universe statement in canon. The guides are contradicted. You can misrepresent the math all day long, it will never change the fact Super does not have an infinite universe.

But it's not surprising when Super is written by a bunch of people who don't know anything about DB.

Hyperbole, poetry, contradictory, what else will excuses be?

 

[Hasty12345]

Show me a statement of it being contradicted. I’m not misrepresenting math, I just gave you an example how the amount of numbers between 2 points can be infinite. Even on a line graph, if you have point (1,0) and point (2,0) you could put an infinite amount of points between the 2. Like (1.11,0) and (1.111,0). Facts don’t care about your feelings. If you can’t find a real contradiction and argue out of incredibility you won’t be taken serious.

• edge
• center
• shown to be smaller than 3D space and touch other universes
• 26 planets with intelligent life
• all statements of infinite come from secondary canon
• never stated infinite in the source material

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Rent free.

No, just saying that something has an end is not infinite, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

 

[Hasty12345]

No, just saying that something has an end is not infinite, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

Rent free.

 

[Ryzen7900X]

Rent free.

really isn't. the argument godofice is making is literally the one that Unshakable made which i recall you supporting. c'mon Hasty...

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

really isn't. the argument godofice is making is literally the one that Unshakable made which i recall you supporting. c'mon Hasty...

I remember exactly what he did

 

[Ryzen7900X]

• edge
• center

isn't exactly a contradiction

• shown to be smaller than 3D space and touch other universes

rejected visual plus also doesnt contradict anything. also what 3D space was it smaller than? the same one from where Zeno's finger appears to be larger than a planet (and possibly galaxies too)?

• 26 planets with intelligent life

Manga only statement. DBS anime and manga cosmologies have been separated as well

• all statements of infinite come from secondary canon

which is still canon

• never stated infinite in the source material

makes no difference

 

[Hasty12345]

really isn't. the argument godofice is making is literally the one that Unshakable made which i recall you supporting. c'mon Hasty...

Things change.

Also for the record, I'd appreciate we drop this "improve your education" thing. it's an old joke and I no longer find it funny.

 

[Hasty12345]

If anyone cares about improving the quality of the verse pages:

Minor Dragon Ball CRT

This is a minor thing, but it looks unprofessional and an easy fix IMO. The current blog linked to Goku's attack potency section includes a section of debunked scaling that's labelled as "not accepted" and struck out, in addition, it's a "user_blog" not a verse page...

vsbattles.com

 

[Ryzen7900X]

Things change.

yeah, things certainly change when you move in between DB and SS. your standards are about as consistent as DBS's powerscaling there

Also for the record, I'd appreciate we drop this "improve your education" thing. it's an old joke and I no longer find it funny.

.....its literally on YOUR profile...

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

• edge
• center

Show me a statement of it being contradicted. I’m not misrepresenting math, I just gave you an example how the amount of numbers between 2 points can be infinite. Even on a line graph, if you have point (1,0) and point (2,0) you could put an infinite amount of points between the 2. Like (1.11,0) and (1.111,0). Facts don’t care about your feelings. If you can’t find a real contradiction and argue out of incredibility you won’t be taken serious.

• shown to be smaller than 3D space and touch other universes

1. U6 & U7 never touch, and the Universes are not shown to be smaller than a 3D space. Although, if you’re referring to it being shown, I would just mention how you can’t draw an infinite sized object anyways, or that the perspective was from a higher dimensional POV i.e neutral space. There’s many verses that show the universe and we still acknowledge are infinite. (Not gonna mention any since I don’t wanna use whataboutism). But that doesn’t contradict an infinite universe.

26 planets with intelligent life

Ah yes, 26 planets with life contradict infinite space within a universe. Like what?

all statements of infinite come from secondary canon

True, still canon and not contradicted. SSJ’s 50x multiplier comes strictly from secondary canon and there’s more statements of infinite universe than there is 50x multiplier statements from my knowledge as well. Secondary source doesn’t mean it’s not canon.

never stated infinite in the source material

Stated to be infinite within the daizenshuu and chozenshuu, which the author himself had to approve to get accepted back in to the guidebook for the latter (chozenshuu).



Allat, and still no contradiction in sight.