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Alien X vs Zeno

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Maverick_Zero_X said:
Characters who know literally everything. Be aware that even if they may know everything in their own setting that this does not grant them knowledge of beings from outside of
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Oke but is it known for both characters that what their opponents are capable of?
 
Reiner said:
You are trying to compare abilities to erase almost everything in their own verse to having nigh OMNICIENT. Two things that are balantly incomparable. As I said it can go both ways.

That's what has been shown to use in the Dragonball so far also expansion in the top was shown to be alot faster than zamasu arc, you are implying addition without any base from the verse, so burden of proof is on you.

Prove that there is anything different in top and zamasu arc erasing aside from massing Change in speed caused by two combined zeno. Because both of them have shown same kind of expansion.
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Omniscience not granting knowledge of other verses and outside characters is accepted as Maverick posted above:whistle:

This isn't proof, it's just a claim

We see no expansion against ToP characters, there's the difference
 
Purgy said:
Zeno isn't erasing just the universe, he's erasing Alien X as well

And how does Zeno die? We saw him survive the erasure of Trunk's universe
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The fight is taking place in our universe? NYC? If zeno erases it, he's also erasing himself completely.
 
Lovemovies14 said:
Well it's true, Annihilargh can't erase him and erased everything else. That's basically EE resistance.
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Even if it is true, it's not on his profile

And in terms of potency, Zeno's EE scales to the entire DB cosmology which is bigger than Ben 10's iirc
 
Purgy said:
Omniscience not granting knowledge of other verses and outside characters is accepted as Maverick posted above
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I've seen that

Purgy said:
This isn't proof, it's just a claim
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The burden of proof is on you because you are claiming something outside of how setting treats it and difference in expansion speed is quite literal.

Purgy said:
We see no expansion against ToP characters, there's the difference
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Argument from ignorance fallacy, I literally shown that in both there is expansion.
 
Reiner said:
I've seen that

The burden of proof is on you because you are claiming something outside of how setting treats it and difference in expansion speed is quite literal.

Argument from ignorance fallacy, I literally shown that in both there is expansion.
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So you concede that Alien X doesn't just know how to counter Zeno?

First, you need to actually prove it was faster with two of them, and don't bother using the anime time because it was blatantly padded out against Zamasu so that Goku and the others could escape

You didn't though, you just showed that both have a water-drop effect showing their erasure
 
Reiner said:
Also omniscience doesn't needed if this the case.
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How? By "aware of each other" it means they know the other character exists and that they're fighting, not that they know what each other can do in combat.
 
Purgy said:
So you concede that Alien X doesn't just know how to counter Zeno?
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Reiner said:
Also omniscience doesn't needed if this the case.
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Purgy said:
First, you need to actually prove it was faster with two of them, and don't bother using the anime time because it was blatantly padded out against Zamasu so that Goku and the others could escape
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It's clearly what has been shown prove otherwise.
Purgy said:
You didn't though, you just showed that both have a water-drop effect showing their erasure
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Prove that it's effect in both cases.
 
Purgy said:
And in terms of potency, Zeno's EE scales to the entire DB cosmology which is bigger than Ben 10's iirc
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Exactly tho. Zeno was able to survive the universe being erased because DB is a multiverse. Zeno destroying our universe would mean there is literally nothing left for Zeno to escape with.
 
Robo said:
Exactly tho. Zeno was able to survive the universe being erased because DB is a multiverse. Zeno destroying our universe would mean there is literally nothing left for Zeno to escape with.
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How do you know there's nothing beyond our own universe? 🤓

And it doesn't matter, Zeno was fine in Trunk's erased universe which was just a void

Lastly, Zeno can erase the entire DB cosmology and not once has it been implied or stated that doing so would kill or harm him
 
It goes straight with alien x blitzing ee start off speed and used mind hax. Done.
Two zeno's combined ee was shown to be way faster in speed but we have one zeno here whose start off speed is way slower than combined. No one has proved otherwise so far. Hence alien x won here.
 
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Kinda surprised this is still going on... even more so that people are actually arguing for AX.

I guess Mav just wanted to see some chaos
 
Purgy said:
And it doesn't matter, Zeno was fine in Trunk's erased universe which was just a void
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It does matter for Alien X since he was completely unharmed when the Annihilargh destroyed the universe around him
Purgy said:
Lastly, Zeno can erase the entire DB cosmology and not once has it been implied or stated that doing so would kill or harm him
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That's out of character for Zeno anyway.
 
Robo said:
It does matter for Alien X since he was completely unharmed when the Annihilargh destroyed the universe around him

That's out of character for Zeno anyway.
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We never assume a character just dies when the universe around them is destroyed, post a QnA thread if you want, Alien X himself will be erased regardless

I never said it wasn't, but it's indicative that he'd been fine after destroying the cosmology
 
Vondoom said:
What stops Alien X just doing dimensional travel and escaping his EE
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Nothing except for the fact that this isn't in character for Alien X to do and the fact that he's not even aware that Zeno can erase things

Also, depending on where he makes a portal to, Zeno probably has enough range to erase him there as well
 
Zeno doesn't have EE resistance since EE resistance isn't on the VSBW Page. Same goes for Alien x. Now if Zeno decides to destroy the universe, he will also die with it. Unless Alien x does mind hax. I cant use the annihilargh argument since its not on AX's profile
 
Purgy said:
There isn't an ability or resistance for that lol, self-sustenance type 1 is enough
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Do you mean self-sustenance type1 gives you resistance to destruction of the universe? Since when? And I'm pretty sure the wiki has accepted Alien X durability as 2C and that they acknowledge that Alien X tanked the Universal destroying bomb so if Zeno tried to erase the universe itself with Alien X> he would fail>Alien X sees him as a notable target > Uses Telekinesis drags Zeno then Mind Hax GG'S
 
Also the wiki accepted that the Bomb does 2-C destruction
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Annihilargh

The Annihilargenesistoriafimiaorgost (Annihilargh for short) was an extremely powerful and dangerous device used by the Contumelia. Tier: 2-A Name: Annihilargenesistoriafimiaorgost, Annihilargh Origin: Ben 10 Age: Older than the Universe Classification: Universe Creator, Doomsday Device...
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Robo said:
Zeno doesn't have EE resistance since EE resistance isn't on the VSBW Page. Same goes for Alien x. Now if Zeno decides to destroy the universe, he will also die with it. Unless Alien x does mind hax. I cant use the annihilargh argument since its not on AX's profile
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Zeno isn't targetted by his own EE so irrelevant
 
Forthegood said:
Do you mean self-sustenance type1 gives you resistance to destruction of the universe? Since when? And I'm pretty sure the wiki has accepted Alien X durability as 2C and that they acknowledge that Alien X tanked the Universal destroying bomb so if Zeno tried to erase the universe itself with Alien X> he would fail>Alien X sees him as a notable target > Uses Telekinesis drags Zeno then Mind Hax GG'S
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It means you can survive in a void

A character has never just insta died when the universe around them gets destroyed, go and make a QnA thread as I said earlier

Alien X doesn't resist EE
 
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